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Peashooter, if you are based in North Yorkshire you will know the Pickering range.  The Deer Society are running a shoot at that range on 22nd April.  It might be a good starting point to pick up a few tips.  I know that the regular members of the Pickering Pistol and Rifle Club shoot all manner of Lee Enfields.
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Originally posted by DRC DRC wrote:

Peashooter, if you are based in North Yorkshire you will know the Pickering range.  The Deer Society are running a shoot at that range on 22nd April.  It might be a good starting point to pick up a few tips.  I know that the regular members of the Pickering Pistol and Rifle Club shoot all manner of Lee Enfields.
 
What kind of Pistols?
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Gone, alas.  Only the firing point and the name survives.Cry
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"Before anyone in this state is allowed to hunt on their own they must take and pass a Hunters safety course and a Marksmen proficiency test."
I wish that were true everywhere. Here (in Maryland) I went to do an HS course prior to going to Arkansas the first time as there was rumored to be some good feral hog hunting. The local R&G club offers them & I'm a member so I figured that was the easiest way to find a course. Wrong! Believe it or not I'm too old to need to take an HS courseConfused The theory being (I guess) that if you're old enough you must somehow be experienced enough as well? Round here if you're born before 1968 no course is needed you just buy the ticket & go hunt something down.

The same holds true in AR as well as I went to get my permit there & was told no course needed.

This may explain why there are so many bloody stupid happenings here every year! I've seen archers trying to shoot flying turkeys on private land they don't own, hunters criss-crossing behind a live fire range behind the backstop in full camo while the range was hot & live fire was occurring & even one hunter with a loaded crossbow hunting within an apartment complex right next to a high school!
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Gone, alas.  Only the firing point and the name survives.Cry
 
I thought in the Uk you can have a revolver with a barrel that is X inches long min ? Do you know any of the requirments?
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Originally posted by DRC DRC wrote:

Gone, alas.  Only the firing point and the name survives.Cry
 
I thought in the Uk you can have a revolver with a barrel that is X inches long min ? Do you know any of the requirments?
 
or cap&ball/muzzleloading??
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I thought in the Uk you can have a revolver with a barrel that is X inches long min ? Do you know any of the requirments?

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 Handguns come under section 5 of the firearms act! As I told you before mere mortals CANNOT posess a pistol. Criminals police and armed forces are the only ones who have them!!
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When I visited my 'tame' firearms dealer I came across a stack of Taurus .357 magnum 7 shot revolvers.  They had 24" barrels and a piece of coat hanger wire sticking out of the grip.  They were described as 'Carbine Rifles'. 
 
I see that .22 Colt 1911 semi's with a simular long barrel are also making their appearence.  It all goes to show that people will try and find ways around every unjust law.
 
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Originally posted by Tony Tony wrote:

Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

 
 
I thought in the Uk you can have a revolver with a barrel that is X inches long min ? Do you know any of the requirments?

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 Handguns come under section 5 of the firearms act! As I told you before mere mortals CANNOT posess a pistol. Criminals police and armed forces are the only ones who have them!!
 
Tony I had read this, has this been changed in the UK?

Long-barrelled revolvers and pistols

"Long-barrelled revolvers" and "long-barrelled pistols" meeting specified criteria are not classified as prohibited pistols; it is legal, with a Class I Firearms Certificate, to own them. The barrel must be at least 30 cm long, and the firearm at least 60 cm long, which can be achieved by having a permanently attached extension to the grip or butt of the firearm. Single-shot firearms of any calibre, and semi-automatic pistol of .22 rimfire calibres, are permitted.

Target pistols

Aside from special temporary exemptions for major events such as the 2012 Olympics, pistol shooting for sporting purposes has been effectively banned since 1997. As a result, the GB pistol squad has to practice abroad.

A few models of single-shot .22 calibre free pistol, as used in the 50m Olympic 'Free Pistol' match, have been produced to meet the "long-barrelled pistol" conditions. Some free pistols have removable stabiliser bars extending backwards to improve stability; the UK-legal models have been made with non-removable stabilisers to extend the dimensions, instead of contrived and non-functional grip extensions. An example is the Pardini K22 Longarm.

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As you say in your post the Uk squad has to practice abroad!!! The pistols as defined are for olympic squad and target nuts who can afford to shoot on the continent! I wouldn't class a revlover with a 30cm barrel and an overall length of 60cm as a pistol. Clubs who used to have pistol ranges still use the pistol and rifle club logo BUT none of the old hands including myself who had section1 pistols on their permits have pistols of any description on their permits. As I said in my previous post the only people in the Uk with pistols are the criminals police and army! Mere mortals are not permitted to have them!!
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sure glad we dont need lists and permits here - it would make me anti-government .....oh yes i already am , never mind
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Sort of depends on the barrel condition of the gun you use, but if you can use a straight-stocked rifle, the Enfield works just fine for everything up to large deer size game. Some of the more daring (crazy?) army types took much bigger dangerous game in Africa. The 303 was popular in Canada as a hunting gun for many years. Just my personal opinion- a tight but all military gun is great for hunting. i don't worry about dinging the stock or scratching the finish. After all, if the boys used them so successfully in so many parts of the world, why not?
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It has been said that Africa was tamed with the 303
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Originally posted by Tony Tony wrote:

To conform with deer stalking laws in the UK you must use soft nosed ammunition  with a muzzle velocity of not less than 2,459 feet/ second and muzzle energy of 1.700 foot pounds. 150 grain soft nosed should cover the legislation, 41.7 grains of Vit N133 behind a 150 grain bullet will give you 2949fps thats a top end load, bottom end load is 38.4 grains of N133 will give a velocity of 2753fps anything between the two loads should be well within the requiremints.
 
The 180gr bullet is way better for deer of any size.  Driving it to 2460fps is quite do-able with modern powders.  The 150gr at 2750fps is way too fast.  OK if not good  for chest shots but not for shoulder shots.  I started out with that loading but switched to slower 180's when I saw the results.  Premium bullets would change that no doubt.  But ordinary 311 bullets available are best in 180grs.
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