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    Posted: 07 February 2010 at 6:06pm
Hey all. I just bought a rear Sling Swivel assembly for my No4, but the holes for the screws are not recessed as on the part that came w/ the rifle

Is this a repro part or just another version of a OEM part
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I have a flat stamped rear swivel base that I think was on a No.4 buttstock, I forget where it came from.
I remember that the screw heads stood proud, but not whether it had any countersink.
I'll try to find it and check it out.
 
It could be a case of a part missing a final process for some reason, an unfinished part left when production halted.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2010 at 12:27pm
the first variation brackets were milled and the second & third were fabricated sheet steel , the metal is .05-inch thick and even with the second version being two thichnesses weelded together this doesnt allow for recessing the screw heads ,
 
the second version was used at savage and the third on very late [54-55] no4 mk2s , depending on the vintage of your rifle you might want to look for a milled one , but if you have a savage the second version was actualy two thicknesses of the sheet steel capturing the swivel loop between them then welded together , the third trapped the swivel loop between the bracket and the wood of the buttstock ,
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Post Options Post Options   Quote madcratebuilder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2010 at 10:21am
Originally posted by A square 10

the first variation brackets were milled and the second & third were fabricated sheet steel , the metal is .05-inch thick and even with the second version being two thichnesses weelded together this doesnt allow for recessing the screw heads ,
 
the second version was used at savage and the third on very late [54-55] no4 mk2s , depending on the vintage of your rifle you might want to look for a milled one , but if you have a savage the second version was actualy two thicknesses of the sheet steel capturing the swivel loop between them then welded together , the third trapped the swivel loop between the bracket and the wood of the buttstock ,


Countersunk screws are used on all three versions of the butt stock swivel bracket.  There are two version, both are oval head, No10, 1" or 1 /14 used on late Long Branch.

All of my Faz Mk2's use the first variation bracket, the milled one.  Two of these I unwrapped so I would assume these are the standard.

The screw heads are slightly higher on the stamped brackets.

Armors commonly removed the milled brackets from the (T) rifles so the user could change sling points quickly.  The stamped brackets have a larger opening on the swivel.
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i just looked at my mk2 and see that it also has the milled version , but mine is a '53 burma contract rifle , ive not seen a 'very late 54-55' rifle to verify what i read  in skennerton  so cant verify his accuracy , anyone here have one ? 
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2 1955 PF Irish contract, 1 UF and 2 more early PF mk2's  from 50 to 55 all with milled brackets.  The only two I would swear to are the two I unwrapped, who the hell know what happens to these when in other hands.

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