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bullseye0317 
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 Topic: NEW Enfield Need Questions Answered.(PICS)Posted: 28 July 2010 at 7:23pm |
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I just got a 308 ishy enfield!! The bolt is a little stick more then my other bolt guns...good bad? I took it all apart but could not get forgrip off?? Just would not go off so I could not clean much...How do I get that Off? I have pics of IT. I Put 308 seira gold match 168 grain in there and cycled the bolt fast...and alot would not extract and some would go fling...good bad normal?? Did not have iron sights to my suprise too that sucks... Look at pics and answer my questions and tell me about it.
Thanks!!
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Lithgow
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:53am |
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They are often tight around the draws(at the back end). Try a rawhide mallet and GENTLE tapping at the rear top of the forend.
If you have all the screws out, then it will just be a tight fit.
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bullseye0317
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 7:00am |
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Look at the pic with bottom of enfield...there is a screw coming from the stock into forgrip and making it were i cant take forgrip off.
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:54am |
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You may need to back out the butt stock bolt. Looks like its protuding a bit and contacting the rear of the fore end. (Edited to correct flub)
The earlier SMLE rifles used a square ended stock bolt that required that the fore end be removed before the stock bolt could be turned.
Later No.4 rifles and some SMLE rifles that used the cross strap fitting at the rear like that of the No.4 would not require that the fore end be removed to free the squared end of the bolt, but if theres contact there then backing it off should free it.
When you get ready to re assemble the rifle you should look for a thin washer to go under the butt bolts head. You don't want any contact between butt stock bolt and fore end.
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If you don't have a long screw driver an old style tire tool usually works fine.
The Enfield depends on contact of the case rim with the inside of the lefthand receiver wall for ejection.
A fired case should eject when it reaches a certain point of the tapered slop of the milled portion of the sidewall, but unfired live rounds usually have to come all the way back to the exposed screw in its cut out.
So long as the rifle ejects fired cases normally its good to go.
How it deals with unfired cartridges is less critical, only of concern if you plan to do a lot of practice using dummy cartridges.
Just be sure that when clearing the chamber that you don't inadvertantly cycle the unejected live round back into the chamber without noticing it.
If the end of the Ejector Screw is damaged you can get a replacement.
If not you should be sure you bring the bolt back smartly to be sure it ejects.
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Lithgow
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:37pm |
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Turning the stock bolt on the smle before removing the forend will result in a cracked forend. The forend has to be removed first.
The forend on the smle had a recess that the squared end of the buttscrew fitted into.
I realise this is a plastic stock and the chances of cracking it are less than a wooden stock but unscrewing the buttscrew first is bad practise, many stocks have been ruined this way.
Is there a band around the barrel where the front sling swivel is? if so then the swivel may be screwed into the band. The smle had a screw through the stock and into the barrel band about there but Im not sure about the Indian 7.62 Ishapores.
If the rifle is not extracting the rounds, look at the condition of the extractor and the spring and make sure there is no build up of dirt and debris there.
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LE Owner
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 7:59pm |
I'd meant you had to remove the fore end before turning the bolt but that somehow got turned around between brain and keyboard.
Looks like his stock is held on by the later type bolt used with those fore ends that had the cross strap instead of the pin.
It looks like only the bottom edge of the end of the bolt is making contact.
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 9:02am |
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UPDATE...I took her out and shot her with some crappy Nato ammo i think.. It was not marked just in seperate 20 round plastic bags. I dont even know the grain it was. But o well it shot and ejected AWSOME! I am very Impressed with it! Now I just took it to my buddys house were he has a crap load of land. And we just shot rocks and crap and I did not have a way of aiming it due to no scope or iron sights(the scopein the pic is a crappy air gun scope). But ya It cycles great and operates great! So now I just need to go buy some better ammo and start testing what ammo I will feed her. And thn sight it in...I do still need to take it apart...so were would I unscrew thw stock at? how? i ges since i have to take it off before the for grip.
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Lithgow
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 2:27pm |
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NO, you need to take the forend (foregrip) off FIRST, if you try to remove the butt first you may well do damage to the forend.
The butt has a big bolt that is accessed by removing the butt pad in your case.
One question, why do you need to remove it at all?
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bullseye0317
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 2:51pm |
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I cant remove the forgrip...The stock scre is making it impossible because it is blocking me being able to pull it out. And I want to remove it because there is alot of crap I can see in there that I want to clean out, I want to clean the gun down....
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 7:02pm |
Take a closer look at his photo.
You can see daylight between the rear of the fore end and the butt socket.
Thats what got me confused earlier.
My Enfield 1915 has the older style fore end you are most used to, the type which requires that the fore end be removed before turning the stock bolt.
My Lithgow made in 44 came with the last type of butt stock used on the No.1, the type that used the same cross trap as the No.4 butt stocks. These used a flat ended screw, similar to that used with the No.4, without the squared end of the earlier type.
Bullseye's rifle must have had that later type and flat ended screw, or the screw was replaced with a flat end screw or possibly one came with the synthetic butt stock.
You can see that the end of the screw protudes just enough to dig into the back of the fore end.
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 7:10pm |
You say the scope is an airgun scope.
What brand?
The higher quality airgun scopes are pretty tough. An airgun scope intended for use of a spring piston pellet rifle actually has more protection against recoil damage than most fire arms scopes.
Some Airgun scopes are recommended for use on automatic weapons.
The piston slamming forwards puts a lot of stress on a scope and many fire arms scopes are damaged when used on pellet rifles.
The airsoft replica scopes are a different matter. I doubt one of those would last even a few shots.
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 7:17pm |
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GAMO...It good? It did not last the recoil or it might have been the scope rings I dont know.
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Posted: 02 August 2010 at 1:08am |
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I have to admit, I have only worked on 1 lee enfield with a synthetic stock and it shot badly.
The forend fitted poorly but from memory, There were no issues getting it apart.
If that gap is there when the forend is fitted up then I would suspect that that rifle may also shoot badly.
I must say that the plastic stock would not crack like a wooden one if the bolt is turned, but, I guess depending on how far into the stock it protrudes and what sort of bolt has been used would govern whether it would do any damage or not.
I am not a fan of the plastic stocks at all but whatever floats your boat.
Just having another look at that picture, it seems to be coming through a little on the low side for the stock bolt.
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Posted: 02 August 2010 at 8:10am |
You have your choice of a fairly wide range of scopes to replace it.
Some low cost scopes give excellent service, but if you plan on making shots out to 800 yards you may as well get the best you can aford.
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Posted: 02 August 2010 at 7:33pm |
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Ya im buying a K weaver scope...but I may have to get scope rings too.
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