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    Posted: January 17 2018 at 12:21am
I have a P17 that I have had turned into a 450 ackley mag imp. i wish to use it in africa and want to work up loads. i am having firing issues. i have a timney trigger and a speed lock and cock on openeing
when I try to fire it it will fire 1 or 2 rounds then misfires. i believe it to be the firing pin is slowed down by the spring binding a little, because if i push on the firing pin with my thumb as i fire it fire ok. any ideas as to how to fix this problem. I have checked the firing pin length and is in spec. also the primers are being dented but no fire.
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No idea off the top of my head, but something it'd be nice to fix before you go to Africa with it.  :-)
Is headspace OK?...Did it do this with the standard trigger?  Cartridge length correct for chamber?
 
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I might suspect the usual suspect, oil and dirt. The fact that it is denting the primer suggests it's not broke. I have seen this before, but it was -40 during a moose hunt. Buddy missed an opportunity to harvest a bull. Model 760 Remember Pump (hate those guns). Found out he thought it was a good idea to oil the heck out of the whole action the night before.
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Wolff spring set or just disassemble the bolt and clean the FP channel. I have found rust so thick the spring was bound up almost glued to the FP.
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As Pukka said, probably better to get it in top form in the comfort of your home. I suspect pulling the bolt to investigate a misfire with teeth/claws/horns or hoofs speeding your way would be a little disconcerning!
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Tonks,
 
Had a Win M 70 misfire when awful cold. Borrowed rifle as it had a scope.   Scope didn't help when gun no workum.
 
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Paddy has a lot of "mis-fires"..but they tend to be NEURON misfires!
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Forgot to mention. I had my brothers Winchester model 70 bolt in .308. For some reason, I soaked the bolt in solvent two days prior, let air dry, then put on graphite powder. I bagged the bull. My only big game animal. ( I consider white-tails medium.) Man, with moose or elk, the work definitely starts after you've pulled the trigger!
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I had a 'mis-fire" that cost me a big beautiful buck. I don't think anyone here believes me on it.
As I mentioned before..it was S & B ammo, in .303. (Bought it because it was "cheap"). When I shot @ the deer, it went "CLICK", I ejected & shot again & again - with other ammo. But the damage was done. When I picked up the ejected cartridge-it had no marks on the primer. I thought it was the rifle..until the next day, when the same thing happened. I sat & starred at that cartridge for hours. My rifle smashes the primer on all other brands.. gave the stuff away to a young guy @ moose camp..never happened to me again.(Then again I will not buy S & B ammo, either! Dang Commies!!)
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Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Paddy has a lot of "mis-fires"..but they tend to be NEURON misfires!


At least I still have neurons to have misfires from.

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Clean your Enfield well. Get rid of all the oil and gunk. A bit of rust can ruin your day.

I hunt with a bush gun that is SWP45 98k in 308 rebuilt by our Israel friends.

Each year I give it a good cleaning before I put it way.

A light coat of 10w oil and it works well.





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Absolutely! Cleaning! My buddies NEVER clean their rifles! I do it for them after the hunting season. To this day, even after time at the range, I'll will pull the bolt, clean and oil the bore. Always have a few "barrel warmers" (reloads that are a little out of spec) to feed the Enfield for the first few shots next time at the range. In the down months like winter, once a month I run an oiled patch thru. Maybe OCD?
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Sorry to piggy back my response. A rifle is mechanical, just like a car engine,or any other moving steel machinery. Rust, corrosion or the build up of dirt and oil is the enemy. Cleaning and re-lubing will ensure long life and dependability. Match the lube with the conditions expected. Do this, and Bob's your Uncle!
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..and Fannys yer Aunt!
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Bob is your Uncle, wink, wink, nod, nod.
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huh - have not seen much of that lately my brother and son are fans 
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