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Here is the best picture i can get of the markings on the front sight, but it reads (as you said) "PAT PEND". See the image below. So what does this mean in the grand scheme of identifying the rifle? sorry for the newbie question but i'm interested!

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Its an abbreviation for "Patent Pending".
Its indicative of a civilian product being protected from copy by law but the application isn't completed yet.
The rear sight is a late model PH-5C with the improved 1/4 MOA clicks. The earlier ones were 1/2 MOA & the shape of the knobs was conical not cylindrical.

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Let me clarify.
Besides the patent pending stamp. Is there any other markings on the sight?
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"In the white" is a term for a firearm that is mechanically finished and ready to go, but isn't blued (other  otherwise finished cosmetically) or engraved. The term derives from the British gun trade and generally refers to shotguns. Sometimes guns would be made and then sold to other firms for finishing cosmetically to their own requirements. For example, the manufacturers in Birmingham would make many guns and then sell them to more local firms, who would finish them to their requirements and mark them up with their firm's details. That is why there seems to be so many different guns (boxlocks especially) in Britain about 100 years ago. Even many local hardware stores would have had their own branded guns. But mechanically, of course, they were all very similar.
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The term "in white" is also used in the car industry in Britain, (at least it was still current in the 1980's) as mentioned; it refer's to untreated metal parts after machining or forming in the case of body panel's.
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i believe i see the 'poorly stamped' M47 on the wrist - its a BSA 
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Hey Goosic, yes there is now that I look closer!

On the other side of the front sight is says “BENTRAL”

Does that help further identify it?

Thanks very much for your interest and help.
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Could that be "CENTRAL"?
There was an Aussie sight maker with that name.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2011/03/Enfieldsights0071-1.jpg
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Right again mate. It reads "CENTRAL" on the left hand side - and "PAT PEND" on the right side of the foresight.

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