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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I’ve not found any difference in accuracy between the SMK and Hornady BTHP Match bullet.

Looking back Geoff I didn't have the No.4 SR"b" when I shot the Hornady, and yes it was the .312" variety that we had then. 
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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I’ve not found any difference in accuracy between the SMK and Hornady BTHP Match bullet.  Hornady made a few different 174 grain bullets, you want the .312 diameter bullet, not the .3105, I don’t think they make them anymore. 

The last batch of Hornady 174gr. I bought late 2022 still miked out at .3105" but they were FMJBT, not the BTHP which like you, I haven't been able to find either.
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Originally posted by Sapper740 Sapper740 wrote:

Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I’ve not found any difference in accuracy between the SMK and Hornady BTHP Match bullet.  Hornady made a few different 174 grain bullets, you want the .312 diameter bullet, not the .3105, I don’t think they make them anymore. 

The last batch of Hornady 174gr. I bought late 2022 still miked out at .3105" but they were FMJBT, not the BTHP which like you, I haven't been able to find either.
 
The Hornady .312" was a special order for Graf & Son and will have GRAF written on the box. I have found a supplier that is offering .311"/.3115"/.312" FMJBT'S for the 7.62x54R and they are no different in performance out to 200 yards than all the other brands we have used. I'm currently working up a load using one of their 168grn FMJBT'S...
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The .3105 were marked & advertised for the "Moist NuggetStar" bores. The cannalure was set up for that too.
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

The .3105 were marked & advertised for the "Moist NuggetStar" bores. The cannalure was set up for that too.
I will refer to the Mosin Nagant as a Moist Nugget from here on out. That's funny...
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I went to our indoor small bore range today and a member who I had not seen for a couple of years was there. He is getting on, nearly 90 and has been suffering from ill heath. He has disposed of his full bore rifles. He said to me are these any use to you?and gave me 12, boxes of PPU 174 grain .303 ammunition I tried to pay for them but he wouldn't take anything.
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

The .3105 were marked & advertised for the "Moist NuggetStar" bores. The cannalure was set up for that too.
 

Not on the Graf and Sons website.  Their "303 caliber/7.7 Japan (311-312)  23 products" link on their homepage takes you eventually to the Hornady FMJBT bullets which are NOW listed as .3105" after I called them and complained.  They were originally listed as .311 as shown on the Hornady box.  It doesn't mention Noisy Maggots anywhere.
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I think that's a mistake, or, typo on the part of Graff & Sons site?
I've been using them for several years & they were marked for the M-N rifles right on the box!
I remember because I was breaking in a brand new (unfired) No4 Mk2 barrel & it was definitely "tight" so I actively sought out the smaller diameter bullets.
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