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Posted: March 20 2025 at 12:34pm |
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Great results with the No4T. Keep up with the good work with the modern stuff!
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Posted: March 20 2025 at 3:31pm |
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Day 3 of the Talladega Spring Matches has concluded.
The 80 shot Service Rifle Match did not go well for me today. First off, I was not dressed for the weather. A cold front moved thru last night bringing temps today in the ‘40’s with more high winds, 15 to 20 mph with gusts to 25. I started to shiver about 1/2 way thru the match, chilled to the bone. It would have been fine without the wind. On top of that, I could not get in the prone position, something was just “off”. Couldn’t get my head lifted high enough to see thru the scope. Plus the shivering, my final stage at 600 yds suffered badly. After the first 10 round string I got up and repositioned my coat and sweatshirt which helped, but by then my vision was blacking out and I was too cold to hold the rifle still. The awards ceremony was held this afternoon for the Garand, Springfield and Vintage Military (GSM) Matches, the Vintage Sniper Match and a few others which I did not shoot in. I held on to my first place win with the M1 Garand and given a $125 gift certificate and very nice M1 Stock donated by the Garand Collectors Association. Also, surprisingly, I ended up 2nd place in the GSM 3 Gun Aggregate, just one point short of 1st place (I shot an 849 out of 900 point possible, winner shot 850). We had 95 competitors shooting in the GSM matches. It’s sometimes difficult to pick yourself up after a poor performance, such as what I did on Tuesday with the No. 4. You just don’t know what the other fellow will do, or what mistakes he or she makes. So, it’s as Shamu says, the only important shot is the one you’re about to take, forget about the shots you already took. Tomorrow is another 80 shot Service Rifle Match, should be much less wind, although still quite cool in the morning. My final match is on Saturday, shooting the No. 4 DCRA 7.62 in a 600 yard 40 round match. |
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Posted: March 20 2025 at 5:00pm |
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Weather is a pain sometimes. When I shot competitively & had more clothes than when moving house! T-shirt & jeans, a Barbour suit, & a thick turtle neck wool sweater. Oh & a set of cheapish "Gorton's Fisherman" sou'wester cape & farmer john trousers! Sneakers & Wellies! ![]() It was English weather, "Don't like English weather? Wait 10 minutes, it will change"!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: March 20 2025 at 7:00pm |
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this is why i only soot in june through august , my body wont deal with the cold or even cool anymore , im always cold ,
i think you did a marvelous job taking 1st in the M1garand stage of the game , as to the cold days experience , we all have a bad day from time to time , dont let it weigh on you tomorrows another day and a fresh start , treat it as if its the first day , start fresh and go for it , in my case we shoot six stages the first and four stages the second day , i walk away from each stage without looking back , im looking at the next one , they are all different unlike what your doing [more ;like sporting clays actually] so i never look back only forward , sometimes theuy go well , sometimes not , but theres always the next one to deal with ,
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 3:39am |
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No doubt, this is as much (or more perhaps) about spending time with our friends over a common interest. We have a lot of fun, there are some that don’t quite “get it”. There is a group of us who hang out together after the match at the campground, but yesterday the weather was too miserable to sit out.
It’s 32 deg F (0 deg C) this morning. That’s pretty cool for Alabama in mid March. But, light and variable winds today, so I think I’ll be OK. The match is from 9:00 to noon. |
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 9:55am |
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First and a second! That's fantastic Geoff!
Get yourself warmed up and ready for the next one. At our shoot recently, I knew the weather was going to be cold, I hate being cold, so I prepared for it by wearing my thermal long-johns and long sleeve top as a first layer. My motorcycling neck warmer as well, which was a really good idea. I was comfortable and warm all day. It certainly helps the concentration.
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 11:44am |
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Thanks Shaun. And once you get cold to the point of shivering, there is no good shooting that comes with it.
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 12:14pm |
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Day 4 of the CMP Talladega Spring Matches has concluded…for me anyway.
There is a 2x600 match going on right now, but my body just can’t take an 80 round (plus sighters) match and a 40 round (plus sighters) match in the same day. That puts too much strain on my neck. The 80 shot match consists of 40 rounds in prone. And the 2x600 is also 40 rounds prone. So, I’ve learned to know my limits. And even then, I find the second 10 round string in prone slow fire very difficult. I did fairly well with the “green rifle” today in the 80 shot Service Rifle Match, that is my olive green stocked Armalite National Match AR-15. I’m so glad I’m no longer chasing distinguished rifleman points, and now I can just relax and have fun. But, the day got off to a rocky start… Got to the range early enough, which is a 30 minute drive from the campground. Parked the truck, pulled out the shooting cart and started loading gear. Opened the back door of the truck to get the rifle. No rifle. Left it in the camper. Checked the time, and figured that I might make it back to the range about 5 minutes before the match starts, so tore off back to the campground. Got the rifle, tore back to the range. Pulled out the cart again, loaded up, got the rifle, then went to get the package of score cards. No score cards, left them at the camper! The envelope of score cards includes stickers with your name, CMP Competitor Number, Firing Point Number and Relay Number. Too late now to go back again. So, took the gear over to the firing line and confessed my stupidity to the CMP Staff. Now, they really are a fantastic group of guys and gals, and they figured it out. They moved me to the second relay because the first was already in prep by this point. Amy gave me a blank card, from a different match format since they did not have any cards for this one and said to write down your score on the back of the card and sign it. So I did that, and got thru the match just fine and they have entered my score in the On-Line Tracker system manually. My score wasn’t great, a few of us dropped shots low into the 9 ring at 300 yards in prone rapid and we ended up holding the aim high in the 9 ring. Happened on both the prone rapid stages. Neither of us could figure out what happened there. At that point, I realized too what went wrong yesterday in the prone slow position at 600 yards (besides freezing my butt off). I had set down my shooting mat at too shallow of an angle to the line of fire. I need to be at about 30 deg to the line of fire and it was more like 20 deg. This threw everything off, made the sling too tight, head too far back, couldn’t see thru the scope, it was all just wrong. Today was a much better prone slow result, first string just about cleaned it with one shot scoring a 9.9 for a total of 99-6x. Second string opened up from fatigue and loosing focus, as it usually does for me. Ended up finishing in the top quarter of the pack. 17th out of 73 shooters. Not my best performance by any means, but enjoyed it nonetheless. Tomorrow will be a fun shoot, the 2x600 (two strings of 20 shots prone at 600 yds) with the No. 4 DCRA 7.62 set up with a PH 5C rear sight and a AJ Parker “Matchmaker” front sight. I’ve got a good load for this rifle, so hope to do reasonably well, although I’ll be up against scoped modern Service Rifles. Not thinking at all about placing high, just want to shoot this rifle in a match. |
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 1:14pm |
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Oh yes, that will throw you off kilter.
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Posted: March 21 2025 at 7:18pm |
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its all about the going not the getting there thats good , your there and doing it , congrats on the successes and condolences on what you see as shortcomings , im not sure i could get thru that regime
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Posted: March 22 2025 at 4:42pm |
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Day 5 of the CMP Spring Matches has concluded.
I’m beat, just got home and unloaded the shooting gear. I shot the No. 4 DCRA 7.62 today in a 40 round 600 yard mid-range match. Really enjoyed it but this pushed me to the limit of endurance (neck strain). My back was able to take it fairly well, so I have Almost fully recovered from putting it out about a month ago. The rifle shot well. The wind was fairly challenging, 8 to 10 mph from 3 to 5 O’Clock with gusts running up to 15 mph, but also short duration lulls where there was almost no wind. This range never seems to get a steady wind. I shot my Long Range Load, Lapua Case, BR-2 Primer, 44.0 gr Varget, 168 gr TMK. Took me a few shots to sort out the right way to turn the windage knob on the PH 5C, seems I make this mistake at least once a year! On the last 10 shot string, a low 6 appeared on the monitor, not to call (Shot #17 below). I thought perhaps a low powder charge. The next shot, #18 was right next to it. I starred at the monitor a while and I suspected the shim between the barrel and bearing at the forend middle band had come out. I came up 2 minutes to check the theory and a low 8 resulted, #19. Came up another minute and a 10 resulted, #20, the last shot. Other than this problem, the rifle held very good elevation throughout the 40 shot match, about 2 MOA. The most satisfying part was a string of five shots landing in the X ring during the third 10 shot string. ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: March 22 2025 at 9:34pm |
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i was disussing your activities at the range today when i worked , the owner is looking to add some of these shoots into our range in the future ,
any idea who i might need to contact to set things in motion ? he is actually serious abot getting some great competitive events here
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Posted: March 23 2025 at 3:59am |
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Mike, have him contact Christina Roguski, the CMP Competition Program Coordinator, croguski@thecmp.org. She will be able to direct him to the right person to get the club match a sanctioned CMP Games Match (which might be Cristina herself). Have him tell Christina that I asked him to contact her. She is very helpful, but might take a few days before she can reply, she will be busy with all the activities that follow a major match that we just had, she travels down from Ohio at CMP North to do these matches.
Hopefully, there may be others here in similar circumstances that can get CMP to sponsor a local club/range match. It’s a great opportunity to shoot your Lee Enfield (and other vintage military service rifles) in a friendly easy match). |
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Posted: March 23 2025 at 4:29am |
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Well Geoff, all I can say is congratulations, for sticking at it and getting some great results. That's a he!! of a lot of shooting in one week!
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Posted: March 23 2025 at 6:12am |
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Thanks Shaun, and I’m beat! I shot 360 rounds over the week. Doesn’t seem like all that much, but as enjoyable as it is, there’s more “effort” involved than just pulling the trigger, especially mental effort.
Now got six rifles to full clean. I did push a few wet patches thru the bore after each days shoot, which helps with the process. I’ve pulled the forend off the DCRA No. 4 and was surprised to find the paper shim between the barrel and forend bearing in tact. I’m now puzzled by what happened. And, now that I’ve thought more about it, my sighting shots at the 600 yd match yesterday were 3 minutes high, with the rear sight set at the elevation setting from my previous shoot at 600x. So by the end of the shoot, the rear sight was back to the previous shoot’s setting. The action must be moving in the forend, or the butt stock is loose. It’s possible too that the front trigger guard screw collar is too long, and the action is rocking on it, but there seems to be too much barrel pressure on the forend for that to happen. Will take a bit of diagnosing to sort this out. |
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Posted: March 23 2025 at 12:31pm |
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Don't feel bad I have a cheat page in each of my logbooks for my sights, ![]() |
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