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There is another option I have heard spoken of and that is bumping 308 bullets up to .311.  I does mean having a bump up die and a strong press.  One can also size down 8mm bullets which may not be the best idea as the jacket would have more spring in it than the lead core but apparently it does work.
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I cast all my projectiles with Wheel weights , I use Gulf wax that you find in the canning section of the grocery store to flux my lead!  it will burst into flame , so beware that you dont jump and throw hot molten lead all over the place if your stirring it at that time!!!!
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Graf's Has some Privi .311 bullets in stock
 
 
They also have Lapua and the Hornady SST things (tried but did not like)
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Originally posted by SW28fan SW28fan wrote:

Graf's Has some Privi .311 bullets in stock
 
 
They also have Lapua and the Hornady SST things (tried but did not like)


I was under the impression that "boat-tail" ammunition was not ideally suited for use in Enfield rifles. I have never tried it in my rifles. What kind of experiences have you guys had with it?
 I got out my Lee loader and mounted 20 rnds. of the Hornady SST ammo. I plan to go try it out, if it ever quits raining.
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What is a good 303 bullet mold to get?
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"I was under the impression that "boat-tail" ammunition was not ideally suited for use in Enfield rifles."

Partly correct. Some, but no all Enfields keyhole violently with boat tail bullets. Mostly it happens with worn 2-groove barrels. The bad news is that the only way to tell is to load up a few & see how your individual bore handles them.
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

"I was under the impression that "boat-tail" ammunition was not ideally suited for use in Enfield rifles."

Partly correct. Some, but no all Enfields keyhole violently with boat tail bullets. Mostly it happens with worn 2-groove barrels. The bad news is that the only way to tell is to load up a few & see how your individual bore handles them.


I guess I will have to give the boat-tail ammo a try too. I am ashamed to admit that I don't know how many grooves the barrels of my No. 4 Mk1*'s have.Confused
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Does anyone know if you can get Hornady HRN3135C or CCI\Speer 2213- .303 C bullets in the UK?
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Its easy to check, just pop the bolt out, prop the gun facing a blank white wall & stare in & count 'em! It is worth checking though as a lot of those "war simplified" rifles did have 2-groove ones.
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Originally posted by Frenchieboy Frenchieboy wrote:

I'm afraid that all of this moulding my own heads is a little above me! As luck would have it I have just been out to one of my "suppliers" for some rimfire ammunition and he had a box of 125g Spritzers put by for me so I have some in hand to load - All be it that I will have to develop a new load for these heads - Much better than running out of expanding ammunition!
 
I tried some 125gr a while ago and they were an absolute disaster, they are just nor long enough to grip into the case and still have enough to jump into the 'leade'. They are unstable as they enter the barrell and are still unstable when they exit.
 
I had to take the rest of the box back to the RFD and get them taken of my 'purchases' so I could buy some 150s
 
150's are the smallest I've had any success with - prefer 180's given the chnace.
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Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

What is a good 303 bullet mold to get?


Paddy PM me after Christmas and I will get the No# off my mold for you , if you would like a few to reload and try I can hook you up with some ready to go. so you can see if you like them or not!!
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I'm using the 180gr BT PRVI bullets in my two-groove which is somewhat rust damaged but the general dimensions are undamaged.  This bore was mint before the rust got it.  It shoots those BT's very accurately indeed.  Both my two-grooves have a simple taper throat unlike my five-groove barrels that have a two-taper throat (as indicated in the SAAMI specs that I have).  PRVI bullets are .310 diameter.  I have not tried other bullets in this rifle (don't fix it if it aint broke) so have no basis for comparison.

With mold for the 303, do remember that that throats and bore vary greatly so a mold that works for one rifle might not work in another.  I have heard good things about CBE molds (made in Australia).  Those are made for real; heavy bullets, up to 240grs but they make molds to specification and aren't all that heavy.  From what I can gather, heavy seems to be more likely to shoot accurately.
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Originally posted by Juno Juno wrote:

Originally posted by Frenchieboy Frenchieboy wrote:

I'm afraid that all of this moulding my own heads is a little above me! As luck would have it I have just been out to one of my "suppliers" for some rimfire ammunition and he had a box of 125g Spritzers put by for me so I have some in hand to load - All be it that I will have to develop a new load for these heads - Much better than running out of expanding ammunition!
 
I tried some 125gr a while ago and they were an absolute disaster, they are just nor long enough to grip into the case and still have enough to jump into the 'leade'. They are unstable as they enter the barrell and are still unstable when they exit.
 
I had to take the rest of the box back to the RFD and get them taken of my 'purchases' so I could buy some 150s
 
150's are the smallest I've had any success with - prefer 180's given the chnace.


I had some 125 Sierra Spitzers and they worked very well, I have a couple of boxes of 150s but for Roe deer they might be a bit much. The Hornady ones look like they have ballistic tips, I'd like to try that.
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I have 200 Hornady 174 gr. and 200 Speer 180 gr., what have you got in the Enfield line to trade?
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Fortunately I have now found that my rifle quite likes the Sierra 174g HPBT heads and also that my local supplier has something like 4 thousand in stock so I will be goiong to get a few hundred some time this week to stock up with.
As it was he was willing to exchange the 100 125g Spritzers that I bought from him for a box of the Sierra 174g HPBTs too for me to try so that also solved the issue with the short OAL with the lighter heads for me!
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