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Posted: January 05 2014 at 9:58pm |
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I'm really disappointed in Hornady. The company's logo has a spitzer type bullet along with a round nose style, both within a capital H standing for Hornady.
However, round noses have went the way of the dinosaur, and Hornady offers but a few now. I personally love them for closer range hunting such as we have here in Michigan. But bullet companies keep coming out with bonded this, solid core that, plastic tipped whiz bangs.
Young people nowadays view the ads for hunting, and feel they have to climb Mt. Everest during a blizzard with an angry look in their eyes, with a black gun...and God forbid they not be wearing their Underarmor. I guess those are the fools that the bullet makers cater to.
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Posted: January 06 2014 at 12:26am |
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Lots of different ways to enjoy the hobby/sport. I go with each unto his/her own. Lord knows I'm a stick in the mud, but I finally tried the newfangled double based powders & found out they work just fine as long as you learn how to make progress work for you.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 12:13pm |
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 1:03pm |
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Aah! I see some 174gr but are they SPBT's? It looks like that on the packet but it's a bit unclear to me. And some 180gr SP's too. One of my rifles shoots 150grs just fine but the chamber and hence throat was shortened a little (so it has a tighter chamber).
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MJ11
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 10:30pm |
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150g SPFB for the older rifles to 300 yards.
![]() 174g Match Kings HPBT for 300 to 600 yards in the newer barrels and rifles and for all rifles past 300 where they lay down and receiver whip effect ends. ![]() ![]() 124g for who knows what, just part of the deal. Back yard I would think. ![]() ....................MJ................. ![]() |
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Posted: February 06 2014 at 3:43am |
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Right, 174gr HPBT - I missed the Match part on the box. So you're saying the match bullets are inaccurate inside of 300yds with older rifles and barrels? Is that for all SMLE's or just the older ones? I was given to believe the SMLE did that with the MkVIII bullet. That was for target selected SMLE's with Target selected MkVII ammo (but assuming all SMLE's, just that the random ones might not be accurate at range anyway). Do older No4's do that too?
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Posted: February 06 2014 at 4:10am |
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It will depend on the barrel and throat. Lots of stories out there but I tend listren to some of the people I have met and talked to over the years. I have several rifles with new barrels that shoot boat tails fine at all ranges but also some that will only shoot flat base well. I will let someone else explain receiver whip for you. Ask Pete Laidler or Nigel Greenaway who explained it to me. Ask muffet he has an opinion opposite theirs with a lot of interesting pictures. Read their notes and articles. I'm am no expert but I listen well and they have never been far off the mark. I did notice that on some #4Ts accuracy would tighten up past 350 yards and hold hard through 600 yards. There are good notes on this in Capt.Laidlers books and they are a good read. Remember never say never when talking Enfields.
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Posted: February 15 2014 at 7:25pm |
I am just curious, was the contract on .311 bullets or another size so they quit making the .311? Trying to think of what guns the US Govt has that uses .311
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Posted: February 15 2014 at 9:56pm |
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I agree with the comment about tightening up. But its not that it gets smaller groups as it goes further, it's that the dispersion gets less at longer distances. I knew of several match shooters back in the U.K. that would switch from 7.62 to .303 at 600+ yards.
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 9:18am |
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I have a very short supply of the Hornady 174gr. FMJ/Sierra 174gr. MatchKings and a Midway backorder for 1200 Sierra 174gr. MatchKings (which are listed as "OVERDUE"). And another order from Widner's for an additional 1000 bullets (listed as "OUT OF STOCK").
I haven't looked at the Hornday's because they have just about stopped all production of this bullet. But I will say that the Hornady bullet does shoot quite well.
I visited a local store that had some .311 Sierra 125gr./150gr. bullets (hunting) some 180gr. as well. I didn't buy them but perhaps I should.
Now that I'm shooting .303 British, wouldn't you know that everyone is out of bullets.
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 10:01am |
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It is extremely unlikely that we will see any .311" or .312" bullets made in the U.S. until 2015 all the makers are trying to catch up with the more popular diameters. All those people who felt they needed 25,000 rounds of ammo (plus three packages of non GMO seeds and a change of underwear) in their survival hoard to survive the Tackywackywookie really created a shortage. |
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 10:15am |
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Well, I hope that your comments are incorrect, but probably true.
I do need to get some velocity data and I'll use what I have sparingly. As well, I need 700-800 Yd. data as well.
We can only hope that the manufacturers produce what we need.
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 1:21am |
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Hard to buy any .311 - .312 bullets over 150 gr. Got a bag of Prvi Partizan, which are just OK in my Mk. V, loading 4350 to start, then switching to some Varget loads. Finally found some Woodleigh 215 gr. at Midway, not cheap. Anybody have any luck ordering those Quest bullets from South Africa? I guess the only way to get them is order them from the web site, pay in Rand and the whole thing....
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 4:21am |
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Posted: September 21 2014 at 9:19am |
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Hi guys,,, This is my first post here but I am known by some I have seen here from Cast Boolits.com. 303guy being a buddy from that site.
I just completed my redo of a #4Mk1 Sporter I picked up at a local gunshop. I have Cast boolits from Lyman mould 314299 from Wheel Weights with 2% tin added. Am in the process of loading them as we speak. I have been shooting 311299 in my .308's, .30-06 Springfields, and Garands for many years with no barrel wear visible. They are lubricated and lead is much softer than any jacketed bullet so there isn't going to be any barrel wear. My lead contains no amount of impurities. I am also looking for some Hornaday 174 gr RNSP's and Woodleigh 215 gr RNSP's as well, for hunting loads. The Cast Boolits will be used for all shooting other than hunting and I expect great accuracy from this gun. The only real difference between this gun and my others which exhibit excellent accuracy is the fact that this one spins the Boolit in the opposite direction. IE Left Hand twist. Look forward to shooting this one a lot. Randy |
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Posted: September 21 2014 at 9:17pm |
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