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EnfieldNut82 
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 Posted: February 03 2013 at 4:10am |
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I was looking at the lee loaders reloading ballastics chart for the classic lee loader. I noticed that they mentioned IMR 4064 for the 150 grain bullets which I have for my rifle. I thought I had the 174 grain but I have the 150 grain so can I follow the lee classic loaders ballastics data and be safe?
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 5:28am |
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Just check you're following them exactly & you'll be just fine. Most new reloaders are very safe, because they're careful to a fault. Its the "New Experts" (those with several 20-round boxes safely reloaded & fired) that get into hot water because they now know just enough to be dangerous! They "change just one thing that wasnt that important" & suddenly become safe reloaders all over again.
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Posted: February 03 2013 at 10:27pm |
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You might find this interesting. Possibly a text book case of sideways-flying boolitts!
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 9:38am |
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One note on the Classic Lee Loaders (whack it with a hammer). The loads in the chart have a lot to do with finding a safe load for the bullet and cartridge that fits a Lee scoop and less to do with the best powder or accuracy. The addition of a cheap balance beam scale will allow you to use a wider range of powders, and even manufacture your own scoops if you wish. The Lee balance beam is not my favorite, I find it a pain to use but it is very accurate and I have seen them at swap meets for around $10.
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 10:55am |
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Hi Everyone
The classic lee loader came today and the brass doesn't fit in the rifle at all after neck sizing. Any suggestions on what to do? let me know thanks Scott |
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 11:59am |
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New brass or full length size is about all you can do.
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Ed Hill
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 2:50am |
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Have you measured the brass? Check the length and diameter. Brass usually swells out until it contacts the chamber, and then shrinks back a bit. Are you sure the brass was fired in this rifle?
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 3:11am |
My exact thought. Can you measure the overall length exactly? Do you have or can you borrow a caliper to measure it with? Neck sizing only works with brass fired in that exact chamber, so where it binds up is important. Did you seat a bullet when trying to feed it? The case mouth if left open is a horrible shape for feeding into the chamber with the extractor spring shoving everything off to the left side. Try this & let us know how it goes. buy a 1/4" wood dowel, or similar long poking impliment that will fit down the barrel. Remove the bolt from the gun. Slide the case into the chamber manually. Does it fit in then? If it gets stuck just push it out with the rod, dowel or whatever.
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 7:21am |
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Hi Everyone
No I didn't actually measure this brass. I just got my lee loader in and knocked out the primer and then resized the neck and tried to put it in the rifle and I noticed it was a very tight fit. Yeah the brass does fit but theres a TON of resistance on the brass going in. I also noticed the Wolf brand brass not really fitting in well. The Private Partizan stuff goes in very nice with a little resistance. I didn't seat a bullet while trying to feed it into the chamber of the gun just empty brass it was just the case mouth open. I thought to myself as well maybe I should wipe these cases down too before I try and put them in the chamber. I can take a pic of the brass if anyone wants to see whats happening if this would help Thanks Scott |
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 7:51am |
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Most sources say Wolf cases are made by Privi, so something strange is happening.
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 7:53am |
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I wonder if I should clean off the cases would that cause any of this? let me know what you think Thanks Scott |
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 9:31am |
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Clean brass is good!Just make sure the chamber is clean, and the brass is clean and dry, no lube.
Wish we could see the brass, but hang in and we'll sort it out. Have you set a sized case next to a new cartridge to check the length? Did you get the Lee case trimmer? in addition to trimming to the correct length, you can chuck the case in an electric drill and use a green plastic kitchen scrubby to clean and polish. Ed |
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 10:24am |
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I could take a picture of the brass I neck resized and tried to put back in the rilfes chamber |
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 10:38am |
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Hey Scot, I was where you are about 7 months ago. I would suggest from expierence if you have the money go ahead and get a single stage press, set of dies (full and neck size), caliphers,digital scale at a minimun. I gave myself alot of headaches trying to get by cheap. Lee dies and tools are pretty reasonable and have worked well for me. The technical stuff I will leave to others. There are a really good group of guys on here who will get you through it, good luck and enjoy.
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 1:13pm |
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I go with clean case and clean chamber - but not too dry. The reason for clean is to prevent excessive case to chamber wall grip. Clean cases fired in a clean chamber last longer. Polished cases in a polished chamber last even longer. Dry cases means wiping off the case lube, not drying it them with solvent.
Digital scales are themselves cheap but make sure you get the higher resolution ones - those that read to 0.01g/0.2gr. Another cautioning on those cheap ones, while they work fine, they don't all have grains even though they say they do!
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 5:13pm |
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You have'nt answered Ed Hills question, have all these cases been fired in this rifle?
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