|
Avro Lancaster's weapons |
Post Reply 
|
Page <12345> |
| Author | |
muffett.2008 
Senior Member 
Joined: December 09 2011 Location: scone. nsw Status: Offline Points: 751 |
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote Reply
 Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:37am |
Not you Hoadie, he means me.
|
|
 |
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:45am |
|
While we are talking about guns and Lancaster.
Did RCAF flight crews or any Lancaster crew carry firearms? |
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
muffett.2008
Senior Member
Joined: December 09 2011 Location: scone. nsw Status: Offline Points: 751 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 5:52am |
|
Dunno Paddy, Brit crews carried revolvers.
|
|
|
|
|
hoadie
Moderator Group 
Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 9680 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 7:22am |
|
I know the later day combat crews do.I never thought to ask any of the vets..it never crossed my mind. I do know there was a signal gun(vary light?) on board the bombers-at least for a while, anyway.(no idea why)
Hoadie |
|
|
Loose wimmen tightened here
|
|
|
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 8:35am |
|
Using a signal gun on a
Lancaster took guts or you had to be nuts.
Flying around in a Lancaster with all that fuel. What if there is a fuel leak or some other type of combat damage and you go off and shot your signal gun. |
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
EnfieldNut82
Senior Member
Joined: January 25 2013 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 121 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 8:39am |
|
Were signal guns used to say that their was injuried on board? I know american b 17s carried signal guns and would shoot a flare off and would be allowed to be at the front of the formation and when coming in to land would fire off a flare to let ground personal to get ready with ambulances because of wounded on board. Just a thought.
|
|
|
|
|
hoadie
Moderator Group
Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 9680 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:21am |
|
maybe...I never thot to ask. If your returning, chances are you dont have much gas...headed out your full-less of a risk
Hoadie |
|
|
Loose wimmen tightened here
|
|
|
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:46am |
|
If you could please hoadie if, by the chance arise, ask?
About personal firearms About the use of the signal gun Thanks, Ed |
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
hoadie
Moderator Group
Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 9680 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 12:15pm |
|
Well, I'll try.There isnt many of them left, now. Doc Hannah checked out last year.He was my main "conduit" for that stuff on Lancs.I'll sniff around the Legion tho.(As long as that old lady doesnt catch me doin it!She asked me last week if I wanted some "super sex", I said SURE! what kinda soup ya got?)
Hoadie |
|
|
Loose wimmen tightened here
|
|
|
|
|
Shamu
Admin Group
Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 20510 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 9:38pm |
|
Bit O/T but have any of you heard about the old WW2 "goon baiting" tricks from POWs?
There was a tradittion of busting the chops of German guards & Germans in general. One of the favourites was the "Jane" heavy bomber. It supposedly had 8 Huntley & palmer engines with Peak Freen wingtip powered turrets! "Jane" was a long-running cartoon strip in the newspaper & new guys were invariably asked about the latest happenings to "jane". The Germans interrogated prisoners, thinking that there was a "secret project" under discussion. Huntley & Palmer made cookies & so did Peak Freens there never was such a factory. The Germans spent a huge amount of time trying to find the factory so they could bomb it before the British super heavy bomber could become operatioinal.
|
|
|
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
|
|
|
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 13 2013 at 11:24pm |
|
While married to my first wife while I in the Army I returned from a 6-8 week field training trip.
My wife told me I was getting something really special tonight. I asked who is coming over? Shot down in flames. |
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
LE Owner
Senior Member
Joined: December 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1047 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 14 2013 at 12:10pm |
|
The RAF .303 Browning MkII As used in the Wellington and Lancaster gun turrets.
Specifications Calibre: 0.303in Weight: 21 lb 14 oz Muzzle velocity: 2,660 ft/sec Rate of fire: 1,150 rpm Maximum Range: 3,000 ft Length: 3 ft 8.5 in PS Some sources on MGs quote recommended rate of fire rather than maximum cyclic rate of fire. Its not uncommon for air cooled guns to be limited in actual effective rate of fire due to concerns of over heating, with short bursts recommended for best reliability. Another possibility is that the standard RAF ammo belts for the .303 RAF Browning held 300-333 RPG (rounds per gun) the OP source may have confused rounds per gun with rounds per minute.
|
|
|
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 14 2013 at 11:33pm |
|
Is the .303 Browning MkII ammo the same ammo as we use in our No1 Mk III and No 4?
The reason I ask I recall see some 303 ammo made by Remington or Winchester in my friend's reloading bench. Per my friend's it was not to be used for MG as there was a issue and it was to hot for rifles. Is this correct? |
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
hoadie
Moderator Group
Joined: March 16 2006 Location: Niagara/Canada Status: Offline Points: 9680 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 15 2013 at 12:33am |
|
Some ammo is clearly stamped "NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE"
Hoadie |
|
|
Loose wimmen tightened here
|
|
|
|
|
paddyofurniture
Senior Member
Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 15 2013 at 1:53am |
|
I did not see any "NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE "on the boxes.
|
|
|
Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
|
|
|
|
|
Shamu
Admin Group
Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 20510 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: March 15 2013 at 2:05am |
|
There was "aircraft issue" .303 Brit ammo, but it was just a higher QC for FTF than "regular" ammo as you couldn't go climbing out on the wings in a dogfigt to clear a malfunction or head seperation. Wing guns had pneumatic re-cocking in the event of a jam, or a dud round, but anything more than that & you were in deep do-do.
I think your friend is confusing the Mk VII, the Mk VIIz, & the Mk8z ammunition. The Mk VII was "regular ball ammo", the Mk VIIz was just Mk VII, but loaded with stick nitro-cellulose powder instead of Cordite, but the Mk 8z was designed for "longer range shooting with machine guns". Because of the "long range" tag, many assumed it had a more powerful charge, making it unsafe in bolt actions. The actual difference was the bullet! Unlike the flat base Mk VII bullet the Mk 8 bullet had a stepped down boat tail design, which made it more efficient at long range.
|
|
|
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
|
|
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
Page <12345> |
| Tweet |
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
Topic Options
muffett.2008 wrote: