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EnfieldHunter
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Topic: Camel Hunting ???Posted: April 28 2010 at 12:44pm |
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I was reading a post on another forum about Lee Speeds about shooting camels. Anyway, I’m interested in anything people living in How much of this type of thing is hunting for food and how much is a culling of non native species to reduce crop damage etc? Are there limits and seasons or is it a shoot what you can when you want proposition? How do you judge a trophy? Is there even such a thing as a trophy camel? It’s not like they have horns to mount, so do you keep anything? Do you make a rug or use the hide? Do you eat a camel? I know I must sound silly, but I’m truly interested in hearing about it. Pictures would be appreciated if anyone is willing to share. |
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 1:36pm |
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i dont find your inquiry at all silly , i didnt know there were camels in austrailia , let alone that they hunted them , id like to know about this too .............
i do know , first hand , from a dear friend back from an african safari that absolutly nothing goes to waste there , the meat goes to feed the people who support the 'game farms' and the villages that surround it , ive never thought of austailia as ahunter destination but thats because im not that kin of hunter , im more a local content with what we have here person , |
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 1:56pm |
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From what I have read feral Camels are a real PIA in parts of Austrialia.
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 3:13pm |
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The camels were brought in many moons ago-to help with outback construction(railroad?) I believe.Then they turned 'em loose when they were no longer needed.
I'll bet if ya look it up,the info is there Hoadie |
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 8:35pm |
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The 'gahn was the Camel train the operated between Adelaide and Alice Springs. Run by Afghan camiliers, who also helped explore the desert from the 1800's to about the 1930's when they finally put the last of the rail road in. The cross country train up to Alice Springs from rAdelaide is called The 'Gahn.
Because there are huge deserts out here, the camels went nuts and there are now millions of the bloody things running round out there. The camel numbers must be in their millions. Mostly because they are in the middle of nowhere they are just culled. Mostly shot from helicopters or mobs get "bombed" from a four wheel drive. As with most hunting here, there is no seasons. The aim is to try and exterminate the bloody things. I do know that people do take meat from them occasionally though. Have a look at http://www.australianhunting.net/AHN_Journal/Articles/011%20Camel%20Cull.htm |
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 9:23pm |
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And a good sport it is too
The 303 is about ideal as a Camel rifle. 10 shots and fast action.
It is not uncommon to see large herds in the station(ranch)country. They do untold damage to fences, water tanks and troughs.
They were originally brought here by the afghan traders as they were well adapted to dry conditions and would pull much larger loads than horse teams.
The horse teamsters and the Afghans did not get on as the Horse teamsters were Aussies and the Afghans Muslim.
The Afghans would allow the Camels to defecate and urinate near wells and waterholes and there is documented eveidence of 1 Afghan being caught washing his feet in a water hole used by the teams. I believe he was murdered for this act.
The camels were turned loose with the start of motor transport, although they were still active until just before WW2.
They have quickly become a pest in the outback regions and the deserts of Aust.
They breed in the Desert and move into the station country where they do damage. They can reach high into the trees and strip the leaves.
If they want to drink they will lean over the edge of the tank and push down on it wrecking the tank.
Do not underestimate them as they can be dangerous, particularly a Bull camel in season. They have what is called a pedastal on their chest ( a hard raised pillar of skin and gristle) and they will get over an enemy (or human) and drop their front legs out efectively driving the foe into the ground.
They are also blessed with an excellent memory and will remember if you mistreat them and will wait their chance to kick you at the first opportunity.
if you are going to shoot them. right behind the ear at the base of the skull will drop them every time, I have even seen a running camel dropped with a 22 rf when it was hit there.
under the hump there is a strip of meat on each side. This is just like beef and I have fed it to people and they did not know.
If you get a tough one, mince it up and make burgers, delicious.
Yep I have shot lots of camels and hope to shoot a lot more.
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 9:34pm |
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Hey lithy, I have a 9.3x62 and my 303 that would love to meet some camels.
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Posted: April 28 2010 at 10:52pm |
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If you ever come to WA and are willing to put your sparky skills to work I MAY be able to get you some camel action.
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Posted: April 29 2010 at 11:31am |
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Can I come too
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Posted: April 29 2010 at 12:41pm |
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Hatchetman, Very interesting article about the cull.Doesn't sound like much gets used, but it does sound like it makes a difference on the eco damage.
Sounds like the areas are so remote that the time and gas and wear and tear on the truck makes it an expensive prospect. Just getting there sounds like and adventure in itself.
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Posted: April 29 2010 at 5:07pm |
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The desert camels only get culled when the Goverment sponsered culls happen as they are an expensive proposition, the vast distances and inaccesability means it has to be done from the air by specialist shooters, only happens once in a while. The shooters I have seen usually have SLR rifles.
property owners shoot the camels on sight when driving around the stations.
With the stations ranging from 250000 to about 1.5 million acres, a lot of camels go unseen.
Donkeys, while not as bad in number as camels are also destructive little beasts and I regularly engage in hunts for those.
I have seen huge mobs and the 303 is great for those too.
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 12:05am |
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So, is the sporterized 303 Enfield the "truck gun" of choice in the way the 30-30 Winchester was the saddle gun of choice in the States during the days when cowboys rode horses instead of atv's?
Do you go donkey hunting as the primary reason for being out and about and try to find "mobs" or is it a part of another activity that would bring you into the wilderness? Like for example, hunting something else? Or, is it an accepted and fun thing to just go on adventure and seek targets of opportunity, cover new ground, explore etc
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 12:55pm |
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I have been out on a jaunt or 5 with my issued SLR....ask no questions....hear no lies...
I have "heard" that the SLR is an excellent choice for camel and good ol big red....just "heard"....I also "heard" that it will pop a pig and is good with iron sights out to about 250m.....especially on the open land....thats all I have to say.. |
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 10:03pm |
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Camel on the Barbie anyone?
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Posted: May 01 2010 at 6:10am |
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I may be stating the obvious here,but.........in Australia we call the FN 308 an SLR , I think they're called SAR or LAR in America, it was our standard military issue after the 303.
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Posted: May 01 2010 at 6:33am |
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I believe it was std for all commonwealth countries,mate.Here it was FN-C1,or FN-C-2(C standin for Canuck)
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