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    Posted: February 22 2020 at 4:40pm
Regular old Sierra 174 Gr HP-BTM Matchkings.
Not loaded rounds, just "heads".
What a palarver! I haven't bought any in about 3 years, I'd stocked up & then my buddy Aif passed & His wife insisted I get all his reloading stuff. I was given the components because I bought the Dillon setup.
Anyway here I am in the only gunshop in the county & they're out!
But they could order them for me.
I asked the price, they "couldn't tell me because the website was down."
GRR! ARGHHHHHH!
Finally they reluctantly found me a price. OK a little higher than M/O but no shipping costs so I said "Do It"!
They demanded a Government-Issued Photo I.D. For projectiles! Not rounds, projectiles!
When I asked why I was told it was because MD state law prohibits selling ammunition to "Prohibited Persons" so I had to have my I.D. verified before they could order.
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It is not ammunition until it is combined with the primer,powder, and cartridge case according to the BATF. Everything listed can be sold separately and is not considered ammunition at all,in any sense of the word. 
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Same up here in Grandmother's land, Goosic!
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Based off of Shamu's observation.  An ID would therefore be needed to purchase .177 pellets and any round or conical lead projectiles for black powder non firearms as well. Especially for the .177 or .25 pellets/ammunition. A bag of marbles/ammunition for a slingshot would need an ID as well,as would paintballs/ammunition.  Stupid...Thumbs Down
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If you want some fishing weights and a length of copper tube for plumbing you will need I.D. then!
Even in France you only need to show your firearm certificate to validate what calibre of "live" rounds you can buy. Not a problem when buying components. Do need I.D. for powder, but that's no a big deal.
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I never have to provide ID foe projectiles, only if buying live or firearms.
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I am very grateful and very thankful I live where I do. Not too long ago I went online to a black powder gun site and put in my shopping cart a box of .452 lead projectiles,wadding, a bottle of FFF black powder,and one 1851 .44 Reb model revolver. Gave them my credit card information at checkout and three days later went out to my mailbox to retrieve the aforementioned.  The only thing as far as ID required at checkout was a box to click on indicating that I was over 18. I buy all my reloading stuff from either www.midwayusa.com or, I drive the 10 miles to the nearest Cabella's.  I have yet to show ID or sign for anything such as projectiles,primers,or gunpowder.  Incidentally, Cabella's has all their black powder stuff in the same aisle as the pellet/bb gun stuff because according to the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, all that stuff is considered a Non Firearm and does NOT have the same weapons classification as a rimfire or centerfire pistol,rifle,or shotgun...
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The 3 rd box finally arrived so I took my receipts & went to pick them up.
THEY WANTED ME TO RE I.D. MYSELF OVER AGAIN.
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They just permanently lost a customer.
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Maybe they have altzheimer's!
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

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The 3 rd box finally arrived so I took my receipts & went to pick them up.
THEY WANTED ME TO RE I.D. MYSELF OVER AGAIN.
AngryAngryAngryAngryAngry
They just permanently lost a customer.
There's  a possibility that you may get some 215gr Woodleigh bullets and some 200 grn  D166 Lapua FMJ rebated BT's in the mail in the near future...
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Aww geeze guy! you're really making me feel guilty now! Hug
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OK - this is officially out of hand - as if it has not been since 68 , we need to change some laws - the constitution says .............."shall make no laws "

i just ordered 2500 cast 45s and 1500 cast 38s - both delivered in separate packages this week to my front door , im not happy with a lot of things in this state but i can still make bullets and shoot , i will order more 38s when i get set up and load all the cases i have , but im set for 45s for this year i have everything loaded at this point 
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I just bought a 44 caliber Uberti 1847 Colt Walker from www.midwayusa.com on sale for $369.99. It will show up in my mailbox in three or four days. There is only one left in stock now.
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that was a buy , i bought my 1847 for about 385 a while back , yup - delivered to the door , as did the 51 , 58 , and 60 

i bought my 1858 and a cartridge conversion cylinder but they delivered separately to the door . that shoots pretty decent with my hand loads , 
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They are offering the cartridge conversion but I'm not in the mood to spend an additional 250 bucks. I'll stick with the cap and  ball cylinder...
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i dont blame you , i got a good deal on the conversion for the 58 , thats a lot , and somehow i cant bring myself to load a 47 with cartridges , some things just have to be as made - that 58 on the other hand was a transitional design - the top strap was an innovation over colts open top even if the one piece design was harder to clean ,  it was the gubsmiths design of the time for custom conversions to cartridge , led to the 75 that was a fine cartridge revolver i have not bought yet , 
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