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    Posted: June 16 2025 at 1:52pm
So if anyone here has shot a .22 Enfield at 200 metre or 200yards, I would be interested to know how many moa of adjustment was required to get on target, compared to 50 metres or 50 yards?

Next weekend w are shooting the large calibre rifles at 200 and 300 metres. I thought I would bring a .22 so my daughter can try it at this distance. I think it would be fun!
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The adjustment is rather large 50+ centimeters  from 100 to 200 meters.  I have done it once  the accuracy is poor because wind deflection become a major problem
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The rear sight on my CNo. 7 has an index mark at 20 and 100 yards, it’s 7 clicks (MOA) of adjustment.  About 0.056 inch rise of the aperture. 

A much larger adjustment from 100 to 200. Should be able to estimate that with a ballistics program if you know the muzzle velocity and bullet BC and weight. 

Somewhere I read that shooting Standard Velocity .22RF at 200 yards simulates 1000 yard shooting with a .308.  That may be in regards to wind drift effects, not necessarily bullet drop. Once you figure out the elevation setting needed, winds will be very significant at 200 yds. 

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we have 200 yds range but id not ever thought of that as 22cal distance - i know it goes that far and the drop can be calculated , 

our 200 is 80 feet between the side berms that are 20 foot plus , but the wind blows here most ervery day and any direction is possible , the end berm is closer to 30-35 feet , you can get a lot of mixed direction in that bowl , 
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It's forecast for 36°C on Saturday at Chinon. 
The firing line is under cover, but the big problem will be the mirage.
Even at 24°C we had a visible mirage through the spotting scope.
Primarilywe will be shooting the large calibre rifles, but the.22 is just for fun. My daughter is coming, and she hasn't shot the .303 yet. So she can enjoy the.22 and we can have some fun trying to get it on paper! 
I tested my new Garmin Xero chronograph with the.22 so I can get some data from a ballistic calculator. 
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I don't know how much help this is going to be, but here it is anyway.

I have one of those "windage adjustable Lee Enfield Target rear sights". I picked it up as a curiosity when at SARCO years back & its been used as a poor man's ladder rear-sight on my .50 Hawken percussion carbine.
Any way, it seems to be a standard No4 Mk1, Mk1 sight, but modified & with a bracket added for whatever it was used on. The clicks have also been modified by cutting a second set of detents in the adjustment knob.
The original scale on the rear face of the frame is very faint, and  a substitute set is engraved in the left hand side of the frame.
I'm guessing to give 1/2 MOA clicks maybe? Its 4 clicks from "2" to"4" on the old, Presumably .303 scale
I believe these were used on some .22RF training rifles, but not Lee Enfields. Because of that I have no idea of the barrel length or sight radius.
The scale is oddly marked, I assume to get the information in the restricted space of the frame.

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In yards I guess?
20 = 200yds
15 = 150 yds
-   = 125yds?
10 = 100yds
5 =50 yds
25 = 25 yds
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anyway its 36 clicks (18" maybe?) from "10" to "20"


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if thats all it takes i think i need to give it a go with my Cno7 one day soon at our range , i can access in off hours when no one else is there so as not to embarrass myself too much , if it goes well ill try a bit of the precission rifle stuff they are instigating lately .....maybe , 
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I have the AG Parker 9G sight on the 1918 SMLE .22, 
I looked at a ballistic calculator yesterday, it gives about 30 moa raise from 50 to 200 metres.
It's only about 4.5 moa for the.303.
I will check how much elevation I can get on the number 8 rifle as well. Make sure I have sufficient adjustment before bringing the rifle.
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According to the scale on mine 140 (MOA) Star
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Thanks! 
I'll update after the weekend.
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Here's what little I know:  my tack driving No.2 in a windless 50 yard indoor range shot 8' low at 100 yds at an outdoor range without changing the setting on the PH5A sight.  The wind wreaked havoc too.
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Well the 1918 SMLE.22 did the business ok today, despite it being 38°C and a bit humid!
I'd set the sights from the ballistic calculator 60 clicks up from my 50m zero that's 30 moa. My daughter took the first go and was immediately on the paper with two 3's at the top . She had been aiming dead centre, but I set it up for 6'O'clock hold. So after realising, she got into the black, with a nice group in the 7-8 rings of five bullets in a 3" by "5" rectangle ( you can cover them with your phone). She did get one in the 10 well centred. Seeing as she was still generally too high, I knocked off two clicks 
But ended up low and left, but mainly in the black, with a similar sized group of 6 in the lower 7-8 rings , as opposed to her high and right.
But a super fun day despite the sweat! 
The rifle is so quiet, when others are shooting the large calibres next to me, I kept thinking it hadn't fired. But since adjusting the rear of the bolt head, to remove a bit of play from the firing pin, it's been no problem with the Eley ammunition.
Although the CCI is more accurate at 50m, it chronoed at around 995 to 1020. Whereas the Eley was very regular and close to the stated 1060 on the box. Vertical spread was reasonable, although my sideways errors need ironing out!
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congrats , sounds like you did just dandy - id never have found the target at that distance , cant see na more 
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Excellent you're raising a great lady shooter there.
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