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    Posted: September 15 2024 at 12:25pm
This .303, (the first for this writer) presumably from the Boer War, came to our farm in South Africa from an old neighbor nearby.
It is quite accurate and in good original condition, save a varnish-like finish someone applied.  
Issue:   The lock time is about equal to that of a flintlock.   Have soaked the bolt in solvent, cleaned and lubed with proper firearm light lubricant.   What am I missing.   
(didn't see a button with which to post a photo).  Appreciate any guidance offered.

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Greetings from Gauteng. This is probably the most user-friendly website that I've ever experienced.
Start off here by clicking on "Post Reply" Then on the 7th icon of the tree Then "Brouse". Look for your photo, click on it followed by "Open". Then just follow by clicking on the necessary icons.

For your information  I attach photos of the Boer War Long Lees You should be able to match with yours:

Lee Metfords:  Mks I*, II, II* and CC.


Lee Enfields: Mks I & I*. CC Mks I & I*

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Welcome from Atlanta, Georgia. 

Possibly a weak or broken main spring. Have you disassembled the bolt?  You will need the proper bolt disassembly tool to unscrew the striker from the cocking piece after first removing the locking screw from the back of the cocking piece. Remove the bolt head to access the two slots in the shoulder of the striker.  




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Welcome to the forum.
What age is the ammunition? Do you know who made it? 
Or did you buy new factory made rounds , PPU or Seller Bellot etc?
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I didn’t think of that.  

Lock time is simply how long it takes for the striker to contact the cartridge primer once it is released by the trigger.  

If the delay in igniting the primer is a result of a deteriorated primer charge, that is an entirely different thing.  Old military surplus cartridges are prone to this, resulting in a hang fire or a significant delay in primer ignition once hit by the striker.  In that case, the solution is to go get some modern commercial ammunition. 



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Bad condition primers are known as "click-BANG" for obvious reasons.
Listen carefully (possibly without hearing defenders if needed for just on or two shots in a very open area.) You should actually hear the "click" followed by a pause, then the "BANG" if that's your problem.
A correctly functioning primer is instant so the two are indistinguishable from each other!
If that's your issue you may find that warming in direct sunlight will help to reduce the delay & make the ammo usable for practice at least.
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I had some Kynoch .577-.450 Martini Henry that did this.  The Berdan primers had about a 2 to 3 second delay in igniting the charge.  I pulled the bullets, removed the cordite and snapped the primers in the rifle.  They did a slow fizzle, sounded like fuse on a firecracker.  


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I had some made in India ammo that was not longer shoot able, bad primers.

Made lots of firecrackers out of the powder. The firecrackers all went bang.
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Appears this is not a Boer War piece.  Shows how much I know! 
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Check your primer strikes.  I bought a butt load of surplus 7.65 X 53 ammunition for my M1891 Argentine Mauser with date stamps from 1910 to the 1930's most of which were hangfires or outright duds.  By checking the primer strike I was able to rule out light strikes as a cause of the problem.





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If you look on the wrist metal Tthe butt socket) there should be a date & a crown stamped there. that should give you the manufacture date, the place made & the exact model you have.

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Originally posted by Everett Stiles Everett Stiles wrote:

Appears this is not a Boer War piece.  Shows how much I know! 

The charger loading LE and SMLE were introduced after the Boer War

Can you describe for us what the symptoms are of the "slow lock time" you experience?

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