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    Posted: February 05 2015 at 5:00pm
I have a 1916 BSA No1 MkIII* and the bolt number does not match. I was doing a bolt test last night and only one of the lugs is making contact. I haven't shimmed the offending lug yet to see how much gap is present. Is it ok to lightly stone the "high" lug until both get equal engagement? I know to only do a few light strokes and check. It's labor-intensive, I know. I just don't want to cut through the hardening on the lug.
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I know that head space may be affected as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2015 at 6:02pm
that was my comment i did not make when i loooked at the thread a moment ago , im not the guy to answer this question , there are armorers amoung us that can give you a better answer than i could even without inspection i suspect - but i would not take any action to correct untill you get the right input - and please allow it all to accumulate first - read it thoroughly - then act with responcible consideration as this could be a really expensive fix if its F'd up , MVHO 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sarge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2015 at 6:10pm
Having several SMLE's, I've just changed a couple of the bolts over to try and duplicate your problem. Mine are all working ok.
 
I would suggest getting the headspace.. and bolt head checked out first by a qualified gunsmith... before you go filing the bolt or any other part for that matter. Both the lugs are put into the design for a purpose. Think safety at every level. Unless you know 110% what your doing... leave things to the experts = qualified and competent Gunsmith / Armourer.
 
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Jump over to milsurps and ask your question Jon. Theres very qualified people there to help you with your problem.
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Thanks to all for your input. Homer, already posted there.
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IMO safety must always be concern #1. While there are a lot we can do as amateurs there are some things best left to professionals to do.

The hard part of course is deciding where the dividing line is for each of us. Some are just more mechanically adept than others, & some are more knowledgeable than others.

My decisions in that grey area are based on a realistic assessment of my equipment & abilities. Based on that I'd strongly suggest that, based on your posts, your needs will be best served by a smith at least evaluating the project. Not trying to knock in any way, but there are aspects of this work you seem unfamiliar with & that to me is a warning flag that you might be getting out of your depth.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Homer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2015 at 6:17am
Jon I think your background as a toolmaker combined with the right advice that you'll receive over at milsurps, will help you better understand the forces at play and what steps will be required to confidently rectify the problem.
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Especially when there is a piece of metal that could come flying back into your face.
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Musketjon: do you understand how these guns actually headspace?
 
Read post #7 & 9 and then all the rest.   It will give you the correct method of measuring the Headspace on your gun with simple tools. There is pictures and everything.  It is very easy to do.  You don't need Headspace gauges as they won't tell what you've got,,, they will only tell you the gun is within "a range."
 
There is probably nothing wrong with your gun.
 
These actions don't work like Mausers.
 
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Shamu,,, Maybe this should be made into a Sticky?  it is kind of relevant.
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From what has been mentioned, it sounds to me like the bolt head is a size to large. In that way the bolt will not engage fully.
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Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan W.R.Buchanan wrote:

You need to go here:   http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1169225-enfield-head-spacing
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Thanks all for the wonderful info. It shoots. It extracts. It picks up the next round. My face is still intact. Maybe I should just leave it well enough alone. Maybe it's a non-issue.
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I like the method in post #9. I think I'll make one of those up and check it at work with the CMM.
Thanks again to all for your input. You guys are the absolute BEST!!!!
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I just checked the head space using the method in post #9 above (thank you Mr Buchanan) and a cursory check with my calipers puts it between .070/.071. I'll check it at work Monday with the CMM or height gage. I read on another forum, some info by Peter Laidler (sic) and found that I was checking the lugs incorrectly. Upon checking it correctly, they seem to have equal bearing. I guess I was definitely worrying about a total non-issue with my rifle. All is good.
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Glad to hear that all is well. Its always best to ask if one is not certain about something. Enjoy your shooting! Thumbs Up
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