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    Posted: June 19 2007 at 4:41pm
Can Ed or anyone else recommend a starting load for .303 British using 180 grain jacketed and IMR 4350?  I've got a lot of it around.  Thanks.
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Did I say Ed?  I meant Dave.
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Daves not here man....Star
oh i kill me.. seriously i dunno where ol davey is mate..think his been caught up at work lately.
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Try a Starting Load of 42gns of IMR 4350 to a max of 46. I tell you what! A Man had more time to himself when he was working,for himself! Work up at Roxby & then come Home to shoot Foxes! Never Bloody well ends ....Mutter ....Mutter

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dave ..we thought the foxes got you! sounds like ya flat out with work.
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Dave, what kind of "foxes" are you "shooting", and what do you mean by shooting?
Here in the "states" a fox is a term for an attractive young woman. LOL
 
My Speer Reloading manual give the following:
for a 180gr bullet and IMR4320
 
41gr 2288 fps  MAX
39gr 2169 fps
37gr 2073 fps Starting
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Thanks all.
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I'd stick with Dave' recommendation, but Hodgon shows a little heavier loads. Check the Hodgon load center at http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp  it has loads for Hodgon, IMR and Winchester powders.
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Originally posted by allan allan wrote:

dave ..we thought the foxes got you! sounds like ya flat out with work.


    Mate I'm been busier than a "One legged man in a Arse kicking contest"  It's ridiculas ! The last few years I was on the bones of me arse  just working 6hrs per night 4,5 nights per week ! Now I'm working for the Man I'm makeing,digusting amounts of money& his getting ,his pound of flesh  out of my Old hide !  I'm doing 8 on & 4 off  at the moment until I get things under control up at Roxby & down here as nobody wants to shoot Foxes,it's a case of 1080 or get Dear Ol Dave to fix the problem  (hey I owe these blokes a lot for favors done for me over the years )

      Hey  Smokey  a Fox is a Young Shelia over here as well ! When you get to my age .........You only look at "Old Boilers"  Hell of a night  these days I'm only interested in a mug of  Milo  (hot cocolate  beverage)  & a warm bed !!!!Big%20smile


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Are IMR 4350 and Hodgedon 4350 interchangeable?
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I don't consider any powder as interchangeable, even if they are supposed to be the same. IMR 4350 and Hodgon 4350 are right next to each other on the burn rate charts, but this doesn't mean they have the same pressure curve. Unless I called the manufacturer and they verified they were the same, I'd look for loads using the specific powder.
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The only time I use data as being interchangeable  is ADI & Hogodon as ADI supplies their powder & it's canned under the Hogodon  Brand ! IMR4350 & H4350 are two differant Powders so far as burning rates go .

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just out of interest no doubt some of you guys cast your own bullet heads but doesnt this cause alot of lead to foul the barrel as there is no guilding? do you have to coat the tips with a special chemical to prevent this or do you just leave them as they are? 
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I want to cast mine one day any info fer a beginer to cast???
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Cast lead bullets vary in composition from soft to hard. Soft bullets ( 20-1 lead/tin)  are for lower powered slower velocities, ie 45-70. Harder bullets (12-1 lead/tin or Linotype or water chilled wheel weights) can be used in higher powered applications but still are limited to about 1500 or 1600 fps to avoid leading.
Lead bullets have to have a lubricant, either in the lube grooves if the bullet is supplied with them, or coated with Lee Alox lube or something similiar.
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Ahem.. its somewhat different w/black powder. ..& it is becoming a HUGE problem for me.
I require PURE lead in my Enfield musket(.577).I have a Lee mould & Lee smelter.
I'm just about completely out of lead.Its become difficult for me to get.Years ago-I had a mate @ the legion workin fer Bell telephone.(Korean vet)They used to bury telephone cable in lead casings.Well-they started rippin that out of the ground(hazardous), so he used to save a bucket full for me every week-& I'd buy him a beer @ Bugsy's.Well, he's long passed on(Cancer) & my supply is just about gone. They USED ta use Pig or Bear fat-I'm told-for lubricant, back in the day.(I use Crisco).
Wont be usinANYTHING soon..if I dont find some lead-dammit!
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