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a17viking
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Topic: Sporterized Enfield?Posted: March 23 2022 at 5:07pm |
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My wife's grandfather was in the Canadian Military during WWII. Have the war he kept his rifle and was sporterized. I don't know if it is an Enfield or not. I have photos below with the markings.
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Posted: March 23 2022 at 5:41pm |
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it was definetly a 303 at one time - i think it appears to have been rechambered for a different bullet , we need some overall shots to determine what it started out as but i do not think enfield , im inclined to mauser of some sort maybe based on the first photo , and the fourth of the magazine cover ,
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Posted: March 23 2022 at 6:22pm |
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Pattern 14 perhaps?
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Posted: March 24 2022 at 3:12am |
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A photo of the entire rifle and one of the left and right sides of the action would help. Doesn’t look like a Lee Enfield.
It appears to have impression stamps indicating it was sold out of service and exported.
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Posted: March 24 2022 at 5:26am |
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It looks like it has a magazine cut off and was D&Ted for a scope mount.
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Posted: March 24 2022 at 7:19am |
Without seeing the whole rifle, the one photo of the top of the reciever shows a Mauser styled bolt release. The stamps on the barrel have it chambered for the 303 and specifically for the 215grn bullets. I tend to agree with Olddust that it is possibly a sporterized P-14...
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Posted: March 24 2022 at 1:23pm |
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Its not a "Lee-Enfield" but, it may be an "American Enfield", (a P-13/ P-14) but the "BSA stacked rifles" has me going. I don't recall BSA making any of either?
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: March 24 2022 at 2:06pm |
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I saw that too, puzzling….full photo should tell the tale. But, seems to be exported from the UK and not a “bring back” by a soldier…
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 3:58am |
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Most likely a BSA custom, they did a lot of reworked P14`s, they look a lot like a regular mauser rifle. So ya, a rifle one would be able to legally bring back after the war.
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 4:02am |
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It would be nice to see the complete rifle. Hopefully the OP doesn't leave us hanging...
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 7:30am |
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Its also set up for the old round nose Mark I and Mk II 215Gr bullets. That kinda dates it!
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 3:32pm |
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as always and because ive been burned recently with speculating beyond what the photos show - we need more complete photos to respond beyond what we have all seen , if the OP mdoes not provide the requested i think they have gotten all we can give ,
i was assuming the 215 bullet was a rechamber to a different caliber but i see why all of you took the high road to the older bullet , i just didnt think the P14 was fcalibrated to that - i may well be mistaken it was where i was headed as well with the mauser/BSA indications tho , i just decided to err on the sideof caution and ask for more photos before the leap , hope he bothers to come back and add to this thread , i am curious about the squirly circle thing in this photo , i cant blow it up and there is something in the center i cant read , anyone have an idea of that mark ? oh and it apears to be D&Td on the receiver as well ,
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 4:39pm |
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That looks to be the BSA stacked rifles mark…
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 4:45pm |
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Trying to get my father in law to get me better photos.
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 6:48pm |
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Pulled this directly from this forum. The OP of this rifle states specifically that his is a P-14 sporterizedby BSA. It has the same stamps as the one in this thread.
...and now we know...
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Posted: March 25 2022 at 11:27pm |
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OK , but - the P14 was only made by three mfgrs here in the states , remington , winchester and eddystone , weedon refurbed them between the wars , while BSA may well have sported it over its lifetime it could not [given Vinners made a few P13s - it is not a BSA rifle ] have been a BSA originated rifle , now , why did BSA mess with it ?
think i answered my own question in retrospect - i got bogged down in origins , its a BSA sporter that was commercial sale , nothing original about it anymore ,
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