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    Posted: March 23 2022 at 5:07pm
My wife's grandfather was in the Canadian Military during WWII. Have the war he kept his rifle and was sporterized. I don't know if it is an Enfield or not. I have photos below with the markings. 
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it was definetly a 303 at one time - i think it appears to have been rechambered for a different bullet , we need some overall shots to determine what it started out as but i do not think enfield , im inclined to mauser of some sort maybe based on the first photo , and the fourth of the magazine cover , 
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Pattern 14 perhaps? 
 
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A photo of the entire rifle and one of the left and right sides of the action would help.  Doesn’t look like a Lee Enfield. 

It appears to have impression stamps indicating it was sold out of service and exported.
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It looks like it has a magazine cut off and was D&Ted for a scope mount.
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Originally posted by Olddust Olddust wrote:

Pattern 14 perhaps? 
 
Without seeing the whole rifle,  the one photo of the top of the reciever shows a Mauser styled bolt release. The stamps on the barrel have it chambered for the 303 and specifically for the 215grn bullets. I tend to agree with Olddust that it is possibly a sporterized P-14...
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Its not a "Lee-Enfield" but, it may be an "American Enfield", (a P-13/ P-14) but the "BSA stacked rifles" has me going. I don't recall BSA making any of either?
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I saw that too, puzzling….full photo should tell the tale. But, seems to be exported from the UK and not a “bring back” by a soldier…
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Most likely a BSA custom, they did a lot of reworked P14`s, they look a lot like a regular mauser rifle.
So ya, a rifle one would be able to legally bring back after the war.
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It would be nice to see the complete rifle. Hopefully the OP doesn't leave us hanging...
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Its also set up for the old round nose Mark I and Mk II 215Gr bullets.
That kinda dates it!
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as always and because ive been burned recently with speculating beyond what the photos show - we need more complete photos to respond beyond what we have all seen , if the OP mdoes not provide the requested i think they have gotten all we can give , 

i was assuming the 215 bullet was a rechamber to a different caliber but i see why all of you took the high road to the older bullet , i just didnt think the P14 was fcalibrated to that - i may well be mistaken it was where i was headed as well with the mauser/BSA indications tho , i just decided to err on the sideof caution and ask for more photos before the leap , 

hope he bothers to come back and add to this thread , 


i am curious about the squirly circle thing in this photo , i cant blow it up and there is something in the center i cant read , anyone have an idea of that mark ? 

oh and it apears to be D&Td on the receiver as well , 
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That looks to be the BSA stacked rifles mark…
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Trying to get my father in law to get me better photos.
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Pulled this directly from this forum.  The OP of this rifle states specifically that his is a P-14 sporterizedby BSA. It has the same stamps as the one in this thread.
...and now we know...
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OK , but - the P14 was only made by three mfgrs here in the states , remington , winchester and eddystone , weedon refurbed them between the wars , while BSA may well have sported it over its lifetime it could not [given Vinners made a few P13s - it is not a BSA rifle ] have been a BSA originated rifle , now , why did BSA mess with it ?



think i answered my own question in retrospect - i got bogged down in origins , its a BSA sporter that was commercial sale , nothing original about it anymore , 
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