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eclecticshooter
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Posted: October 05 2021 at 6:50am |
Hi All
I am hoping to get some clarity on rear sights for No8 Mk1 22RF rifle. From what I understand the rear sight is your typical flip up sight with a battle (ghost ring) sight when the sight is down (in it's normal/default orientation). I have an opportunity to buy one, however the one I saw was missing the battle sight. Almost as if someone filed it off. I thought someone did and then decided to do some more research. I haven't found anything to support an idea that this may have been done intentionally or some sort of a later evolution of the rifle (as issued). However I have found a handful of examples where the rear battle sight is missing (e.g. Lee Enfield No8 (highwoodclassicarms.co.uk)). Something like this, I have seen another example like this and the one I have an opportunity to buy is similar, 3 in total, have not seen any more like this. I am hoping someone can explain to me what's going on here. Snapping a ghost ring off is not trivial, so this leads me to believe that it was intentional. I am just not sure why/where/etc. What's the reason and history behind it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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britrifles
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The battle aperture was ground off on No. 4 (T) rifles to allow figment of the No. 32 scope. That’s one example, there may be others.
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Marco1010
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the No8 cadet rifles I used here in NZ when a bit younger were fitted with the non adjustable 2 position flip up battle sight. I assume it was adjusted for the different calibre and ballistics. But I am going back about 35 years ...
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eclecticshooter
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Thanks all. Appreciate the response. It was getting me a bit confused, but it's good to know that this is not an "as issued" condition. And probably will help someone else in the future :)
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A square 10
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we have a member that will jump in here soon that is very familiar with the no8 - i dont have one but always wished i did ,
looks to be a very fine rifle ,
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Shamu
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I'm betting that's exactly "As Issued" look at the range markings. That's the last of the rifles I'm looking for too. I learned to shoot with one very much like it a bazillion years ago & an ocean away! |
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Goosic
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I have this sight and no, I did not molest this one. I assumed it was for a No7, No8, or No9.
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where is ZED ? i thought he would check in by now
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Stanforth
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The sight shown by Goosic is not the one supplied with the NO 8 MK1.
Ian Skennerton, in his book 'The British Service Lee' states 'The rifle is issued with service sights. These are similar to those of the N0 4 rifle and give the same ailing picture to the firer. The backsight gradulations are for 25-yard, 50 yard and 100 yard firing with an additional "H" gradulation for firing on a landscape target.' The illustration shows it with the 'Battle sight.
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Zed
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Sorry for being late guy's. I was at the new Bond movie last night.
The No8's can have with or without the battle sight. I have one with and one without. I'll post a picture later. Don't know why some have it removed, possibly the slides were surplus stock for the No4T's . I'm sure the part's bins were source of some of it!
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Zed
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Not a great photo; but you can see that the No8 in the centre has the battle sight and the one on the right does not. The one on the right is built on a No5 receiver. But I don't think the type of receiver has any influence on the type of sight fitted. On the left is my No4Mk1/2
Also, a question regarding the first photo in this post. That rifle has chequer engraving on the butt wrist. Is that the rifle you are purchasing? Or is that photo from a book? I ask, because the trials No8 rifles had similar style chequering on the wrist. Look at the serial number. |
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