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Posted: April 22 2006 at 12:37pm |
It seems to methere is a entire Generation of Shooters who are just
begining to discover the world of the 303 as a parent case for Wild
cats! I'm seeing a lot of 25 -303s appearing ! Which is funny as they
think it's a whle new concept ! After WW2 ther was a shortage of rifles
in Australia. So local Gun smiths took advantage of the 303 to use to
make rough equivilents of US cals ! These went from the mundane to the
rediculas ( I don't think there would be many shooters left who could
remember ,the joys ofreforming a 303 case down to about 1.5 inches to a
22 imp or wasp )
WE were lucky in the fact that companies like IMI ,Riverbrand, Super . Marketed these rounds a a factory line up ! 22 Wasp,imp,Sprinter ,Falcon ,224Imp(303-22 swift ) 243,257,270 -303 ! Yep they in those days of the 50's -late60's early 70's were quite common & were never thought of as being Wild cats ! Dave |
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Dave, Tell me about the .25 cal wildcats for the necked down .303 brass? Cookie Monster |
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THe 25-303 was quite simply a 303brit sized to to .257 this
could be achived through either using two stages 270 then 257 or by
using a Vice type FLR die .When used in the III & V actions the
verlosities & pressures had to be kept down .But in a Mauser or
Pat 14 action the round gave/gives the 257 Roberts a scare
I still use my MkIII Sprinter with 87gn slugs a around 3000/Fps & it hits hard out at 200mtrs + Dave |
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Dave, Yep I make my 25-06 close to the same way. Cookie Monster |
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It's taken years to track down but at long last I've found some info on
the 35-303 Pumkin Roller ! I remember seeing rifles rechambered for
this odd ball & at the time never really took much notice ! I'm
seriously looking at rebarreling a rifle to this round as a Bush rifle
! All it was ,was a 303 opened out to .358 & used a 250 gn pill at
round the 1800-2400 fps mark ! It was ment for use in the Northern
Territory which had a ludicrist law reguarding that Only Pro
shooters could own a weapon with a Muzzel verlosity of over 2000 fps !
Dave |
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What there is black powder weapons that shoot faster the 2000fps !!! Idiots Cookie Monster |
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Yeah it was back in the bad Old days ! Western Australia has even
crazier laws! Even to this day there are two classifications of
Permit Low Power & High Power the dividing line is
1750fps !!!!!! You may own a 45-70 on a low power license ! Yet a 222
is classed as high power ! They require a shooter to have One letter
from a property owner for a Low power & a min of three for a High
power (you can own a high power for range use only ) Some years ago I
took on a Gov culling contract over the border Everthing was fine until
I checked in at a place on the border called Eucla .To let the WA
police know that I would be working the Nullabour plain up north from
them ! Ye gods ! I thought they were going to hang me! It took several
phone calls through to Perth to clariffy that I was already permitted
to bring a .303 over the border & even once we'd cleared that up
they went mad that the Dept I was working for would be shipping ammo
for my use to them & I would pick it up ! I'did'nt have the heart
to tell them at that stage that every time I came in I'd have a bag of
Dog scalps & camel ears to be returned to perth !
Dave |
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Tony
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Had the same with Liverpool police mate. Asked them about putting some soft nose ammo on my ticket to zero the sights for Deer stalking. Reply was "you can't shoot targets with soft nose ammunition!" ( so how the hell do you zero the sights?) Followed by It's illegal to shoot people with soft nosed ammunition!" Funny I thought it was just as illegal to shoot folks with fmj! Must check on that cos we got a noisy beighbour!
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My nearest nieghbour is about 1km away (My brother ) so Solids or soft nose ammo is not a option ! But I wonder How I'd go registering a Mortar ???????Considering it's a smooth Bore & a single shot ! Here in South Australia there has been a big recruitment drive to entise London Police over here! Needless to say we now have a Swag of Ex Bobbies sent to Port Augusta to Blood them in ! Before they go back down to Adelaide ! It's as funny as a Fit ! Not only are they having to carry Firearms & deal with the Lesser forms in the Port & from the Lands up North (& yes these lesser forms still Spear each other ,club & stab & given the chance shoot ) The Poor new Guy's & Gals have to deal with our firearm laws ! With the added bonus of comming into direct contact with Pro shooters like myself ! ! We had a couple of coppers come out to pay us a visit (the australian) Cop had set his partner up a beauty ! Told the poor bugger they were comming out to do a Firearms check on me (he was just comming out as they were in the district & he wanted to line up a day or two of spotlighting with me ) His poor Mate near sh*t himself & turned up wearing his bullet proof vest When I get the chance I'm going to take the Poor cow out for a shot! He was so embarressed ! Dave |
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I should eat my words in reguards to the Old faithfull .303 off springs
! I've just been asked if I'll make up some 243,25, 270 -303 brass for
a couple of shooters who are interested & have purchased
Mk111's in these cals! Their also going to re - enburse me for my time
& the cost of the Brass ! They were very impressed with both my
25-303 & the Pat 14 I have just picked up in 270 -303 ! There could
be hope yet for these almost forgottern rounds !
Dave |
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What do you have for a back stop down under Dave? The stereo ype portrays Austrailia as wide open desert. Here my closest neihobers are less then a half mile but the terrian is such that it is unlikely for a bullet to travel much farther then a quarter or half mile. It would hit a tree or hill side long before it ran out of energy.
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Around here it's mostly mountain country (with only about a third of the country good for cropping the rest is grazing ) We do have wide open spaces though . Where I normaly shoot up north is open almost flat country as Far as the Horizion . The smallest Station I shoot on up there is 50 square miles in Area. The largest is roughly 300mile x 270mile ! The population in these areas is roughly about 30 people ! Dave |
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Dave You should be ashamed of yourself scaring the poor pommy coppers lol.
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dave, i remember when i went shooting up bourke way for the first time. on the mitchell HWY between nyngan and bourke, is dead straight (around 210kms) of road...well..we passed through there around 3 in the morning and saw A headlight in the distance....around a half hour later, that one head light turned into 2..about 10 minutes later THE truck passed us..now thats some flat country.
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Kinda like coming out of northern Ontario @ Manitoba boarder..Soon as you hit Manitoba its FLAT! How flat you ask? Well..If it wasn't for that tree in Saskatchewan blocking the view - you could see the Rockies @ British Columbia /Alberta border!!! Now THATS flat!! Hoadie |
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