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    Posted: February 27 2007 at 11:01am
The Bolt Tool looks just like the Sergeant's tool, used in Civil War stuff.Damn-I lent mine out & didn't get it back. Sargents tools are readily available fer 5 or 10 bucks
I'll hafta get some dimensions on 'em
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Puts his Helmut & Flack Vest on ............Now I can see where the Chap writing that artical is comming from ......BUT! Whilst I have never bothered with Head Space on a MK111 (a I've always felt it was out of my control ) With Mk4 s where it was within my control I've alway been a stickler for checking the head space ! Yes I know that Enfields have large chambers ect ,but I like the thought of being in control of what's going on in a rifle that I'm going to fire ,esp as I  reload !

    Hey! CJ no need to appologize ! The ida ofthis forum is to share info like this & throw it in to the pit to be kicked around & pulled to pieces & put back together again ! We all learn from things like this ! More Power to you for doing it !

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Ranger-  My bad and I stand corrected. And I didn't mean to give credit to Hoadie for the post, I just say the grizzly bear and thought it was him! I will also be interested in what the masters say!  taking me awhile to get this forum!
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Just for the record I was not endorsing the article, I was just asking the experts of this forum if the article was valid and right on.  It made me feel more comfortable if I decide not to have my headspace checked before I fire it.  Let's hear what the experts say after reading it Confused.
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Thanks hoadie for that link, it does make a lot of sense.  Like I said I found that graphic on this forum, but is looks like it originated on that post.  And the additional information is comforting.  I was tending to belive that anyway with my rifle because I was so close to the .070.  So I now will buy some ammo and try it out this weekend.  I have a longer bolt head in the mail to me I will also try.

I have a stubborn screw I will have to drill out on the underside of the forearm to remove the wood.  I am currently looking for new wood for it so I can restore it back to original condition.

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Too bad it was done with a different rifle...
 
I've checked at Numrich and on Ebay, and may just buy a bolt body and swap.  I would like to make sure it is still a Savage made, however.   At least keep that consistant.  I may still call customer service at Century, first.  They have been helpful in the past.  What the heck, no harm in asking.
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Nomad660, someone at some time probably matched the bolthead to the bolt, which is why it fits. If it won't go at least vertical, it's a bear to even get the bolt in the rifle.
Allan, closer to .067 is better than larger on the headspace. I think the writer was trying to say that the Enfield is designed to be safe in these circumstances, and Probably nothing bad will happen.  In the example show, if a #3 bolthead or a new bolt wouldn't fix it I'd make it a wall hanger.
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he has certainly a convincing point, even went to the trouble of being excessive with round to prove a point, but ive never heard any one say relax and enjoy whilst shooting a rifle with excessive headspace  , thats the first time ive ever heard someone say dont worry about it. ill wait to hear what the experienced guys on here have to say.


 
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I found this post on a the surplus rifle forum and was wondering if TK's post was on target or not.  It sounds pretty convincing to me.  I still have yet to fire my new (as of Christmas) No.4 Mk. 1*.  I find myself going back and forth as to weather or not I am going to have the headspace checked or not, then I found this post.  Now I think I am just going to fire at will (as I am not a reloader as of yet and all the ammo I will be firing are new factory loads Remington etc).  I got it for $ 135- US and don't want to put more money into it if I don't really need to. I respect ya'alls opinions and would like to know what you think as I am green in this area. 
 
 
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wow..that tool looks awesome,saves alot of money making that yourself instead of buying one.
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Great Work CJ I reckon that's the best example we've had yet it really simplifies the whole thing ! Good work Mate

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I found this old graphic to help explain.  I found it on this site, so its a repost, but I thought it was worth viewing again for those that are learning about headspace. 


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Yes now only if I could make one i would be doing great!
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Outstanding!  Thankyou to Both ED & CJ for that info !

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Here are the images Ed Sent me, Sorry for the delay, I was out this weekend.

This will help you make a Bolt Tool out of a 6mm 1/4 inch drive socket.





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Yeah puting it simpley  The #1 Mk111 had one size Bolt head . When they redesigned the Mk4 they allowed for bold head replacement for wear & tear (hense the different sizes ) This made the Amourers life somewhat easier . Be it BSA ,Savage or Ishie the bolt heads were interchangeable !

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