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Zero
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please help identify thanks
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paddyofurniture
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A fake!
Made over in the sand box by a master gun maker from scrap iron.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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SW28fan
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Those stampings do look like the work of Mustaf in the Khyber Pass even Maltby markings are clearer
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paddyofurniture
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Made by Hoadie in his weehoose out back.
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Goosic
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Show us the rest of the receiver with any other stampings please.
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A square 10
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Khyber pass rifle - you can do as you please but - it will one day become a collectible bit for we enfield folks [the ones who have everything and are looking for the oddities] because of that i would not destroy or trash it ,
as A RIFLE it is junk , do not try to build anything - it was hand made with crude tooling and will not be safe , JM2CW
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MarkG
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Yeah, I'd kind of like a Khyber Pass rifle because it would be an interesting piece of history. I wouldn't shoot it, though.
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Bear43
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, everyone. Don't assume like that. You are all making assumptions on how the markings look. Have any of you looked closely at Maltby markings? They look like a drunk monkey applied them and I have seen legitimate Maltby marks that looked worse than this. Just because the markings are rough means nothing. We are not seeing enough pictures to determine anything at this point. I see a "47" at the top of the wrist. That typically means BSA. Next, it has what appears to be the early "England" import stamp on the wrist. The serial number is wonky but most of us have seen these old No 4's re-serialed. In a nutshe!!, there isn't enough information yet. So lets not damn the poor thing until we know more.
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Pukka Bundook
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Agreed, Bear.
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hoadie
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OK, Paddy...just for that - I'm sending my buddy "Dorian" over to see you. He's gonna huff & puff and BLOW yer house down! |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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paddyofurniture
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Thanks Hoadie! I fart in your general direction for that.
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Zed
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Are ther No4 type Khyber pass rifles in existance? I assumed they were No1MkIII or early types.
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Bear43
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They are out there. The ones most commonly seen here in the US were imported by Tennessee Guns so that helps to spot them.
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A square 10
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OK bear - those marks look typical kyber pass to me - combination of mfgr markings overlayed and none make much sense but if you see something im missing i am willing to listen more ,
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Zero
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thanks guys I will post more pics so you all can see it.
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Zero
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I am going to half to try and get more pics the resolution is to high wont let me up load them. Their are markings all over the rifle. Letter T crowns Bnp stamp. Just no weight in tons stamp that I can see but I will post more pics tomorrow.
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