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    Posted: December 22 2024 at 11:43am





Anybody care to chime in on the markings, and exactly what this is?
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its defenetly a P88 bayonet , but someone has ground on it altering its proper contour and destroying its valkue 
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A Pattern 1888 Mk I (2)  This is how it would have been originally.



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thanks for the info guys! I thought the tip didn’t look “proper” bayonet like. The reshape is so skillfully done that in person, it looks great. I was glad to pay the $40 asking price!
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The Pattern 1888  Family:


Mk I
Mk I(2)
Mk II
Mk III
South African WW II Version
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I have never seen bayonets like these.

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IIRC the original posting of the bayo I've seen before on this forum.
Doesn't seem like all that long ago...anyone else remember it?
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The one I posted? I suppose anything is possible as I just bought it less than a week ago. The guy I got it from thought it was American because his grandfather brought it back from Ww2. I really didn’t know exactly what it was other than it looked British and cut down.
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There was someone that posted a similar bayo on here a while back. Maybe it's the same one? I dunno...
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im going to guess that someone made that alteration to the bayonet to make it a fighting knife , strictly a guess tho , in US service such things were done in theater but i suspect in european service it might be done to bring back war trophies , yet this is an older obsolete bayonet in both world wars these date back to boar war era 
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I can help you out with some of the stamps.  X - Passed bend test.  K.R.R. - King's Royal Rifles  W^D - War Department acceptance stamp.
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Bayonet manufactured at the Enfield Factory in August 1891. Attached photo of a contemporary Lee Metford Mk I* also by Enfield.

 
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Thanks to everyone for their input. If the story I got was true (when I bought it) about it being brought back from Europe in that condition, maybe it was a trench/fighting knife.?. I’ve been reading on the Great War forum that the royal engineers did cut down broken (obsolete?) in theatre during WW1. So did the British Army cut down obsolete bayonets for WW2? If so did they mark/stamp them?
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I always look at all bayonets even altered ones. You never know the history.
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Ross rifle bayonets were often savagely cut as they were found to be ineffective against greatcoats. 
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I see lots of Ross bayonets cut down with muzzle ring removed.

I even see Ross bayonets with US markings. That are cut down to  trench knifes.
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