Fultons - advice and ID

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   Do both of the No. 4 rifles have the “Regulated by Fulton” stamp?  Fulton’s have a long history in preparing and maintaining British service rifles for competitive shooting.  These likely have replacement barrels and may have replacement furniture. Correct fore-end fit and bedding of the barrel and receiver is a critical step for accurate shooting. 
Many of the Commonwealth national shooting teams purchased their service rifles from Fulton’s while they were at Bisley camp during the annual meetings, I have one such rifle bought by a friend of my Dad’s when he was at Bisley in the 1960’s. Lovely rifle and a very good shooter. 

The No. 4 Mk I ROF (F) was made at Fazakerley but has a Mk 2 fore-end fitted which is a bit odd. Fazakerley converted large numbers of No. 4 Mk I rifles to No. 4 Mk I/2 by brazing a steel bracket to the front side of the action body butt socket to which the trigger was pinned to. The Mk I had the trigger pinned to the trigger guard. 

I suspect the Savage No. 4 Mk I you have was used with the central target sight, or perhaps there is another rear sight among your grandfathers shooting equipment. 

These rifles appear to be in mostly unaltered configuration, except for the Fulton Regulation as a target rifle.  

Very nice rifles.  

A word of caution, do not attempt to remove the Fore-end until you learn how to do it correctly, otherwise you will damage the wood bearing surfaces at the action body sear lugs which are critical to maintaining a tight fit of the fore-end and accurate shooting. 

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britrifles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: February 03 2018 Location: Georgia, USA Status: Offline Points: 8404	Post Options Post Reply Quote britrifles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August 30 2025 at 4:33am
	Do both of the No. 4 rifles have the “Regulated by Fulton” stamp? Fulton’s have a long history in preparing and maintaining British service rifles for competitive shooting. These likely have replacement barrels and may have replacement furniture. Correct fore-end fit and bedding of the barrel and receiver is a critical step for accurate shooting. Many of the Commonwealth national shooting teams purchased their service rifles from Fulton’s while they were at Bisley camp during the annual meetings, I have one such rifle bought by a friend of my Dad’s when he was at Bisley in the 1960’s. Lovely rifle and a very good shooter. The No. 4 Mk I ROF (F) was made at Fazakerley but has a Mk 2 fore-end fitted which is a bit odd. Fazakerley converted large numbers of No. 4 Mk I rifles to No. 4 Mk I/2 by brazing a steel bracket to the front side of the action body butt socket to which the trigger was pinned to. The Mk I had the trigger pinned to the trigger guard. I suspect the Savage No. 4 Mk I you have was used with the central target sight, or perhaps there is another rear sight among your grandfathers shooting equipment. These rifles appear to be in mostly unaltered configuration, except for the Fulton Regulation as a target rifle. Very nice rifles. A word of caution, do not attempt to remove the Fore-end until you learn how to do it correctly, otherwise you will damage the wood bearing surfaces at the action body sear lugs which are critical to maintaining a tight fit of the fore-end and accurate shooting.

Bulletfreak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August 19 2025 Location: Perth Australia Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bulletfreak Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August 30 2025 at 5:10am
	Thanks Britrifles, Yes I believe he and others on the Australia Team had them built up at Bisley prior to Queens. I think 1958?? Some where I have his blazer from the Commonwealth Games and his hat covered in tags from NZ, Canada, Rhodesia Thanks for the tip on the forestock, I actually been reading this page for a while and understand tuning a rifle using tension on the action screw. There is spare woodwork and sights in the original pine case including striping tools and Parker and Hale willow cleaning rods Looking for a rough value Already handed in 4 older BSA clubman’s, Franchi spas and a ruger 10/22 so I can keep the Browning A5 and Berretta SL22

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	If you need a detailed & lavishly illustrated stripping manual for either or both of those rifles let me know & I'll e-mail them to you. I'd post them on here but they're too large a file size because of the level of detail & quantity of illustrations.
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	I was going to suggest joining a club Paddy, but Converting so he can have 4 wives & unlimited concubines may be a bit drastic!
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	Hey! I have been married three(3) times and I am still here. Best of all I did not loose any guns in the divorces.

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	Looking at the SMLE & the No4 Mk1 with the cross bolt Mk2 cross bolt triggered a memory for me. I vaguely remember Fulton's using screws or bolts to "clamp" the Mk2 stock to the the Mk1 action as an accuracy thing. I don't remember if they also upgraded to the hung trigger or something else internally though. One of the action bedding mods involved hardwood dowels inside the stock on the sides to do a similar "better fit" mod.
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	Yep, the Mk2 is a MkI or Mk1/2, as it has the cutoff boss which was eliminated on Mk2 production.

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	interesting bear - reduced glare , id not thought that far on that condition , i was thinking cracked handguards of course ,

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	It was news to me to. I don't even know if its "Legal for Competition" any more?
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	Colin Blechyndens team hat and a couple of NRA pins from the era of big bore