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Goosic
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Posted: December 18 2018 at 8:43pm |
I had somewhat of an issue the other day with Hornady once fired brass both in .303 and .308. In both instances I used the full size resizer dies. I trimmed the cases to the exact specifications, I deburred the case mouth and primer pockets, chamferring them as well. The first issue was repriming the cases. Out of 100 cases of the .308,54 of those had to be deprimed and deprimed twice. Re deburred and chamfered. Almost identical results for the .303 brass. Finished the loading process and went to test fit the cases into the respective rifles that the once fired brass were fired from. The brass would not fit in the chambers of the rifles. I tried the .303 round in all the other Enfield rifles, big fat no-go. Tried the .308 rounds in my Tactical system, big fat no-go as well. I purposely took ten rounds of once fired brass from a lot of Winchester,Remington, PPU,and Norma,both in .303 and .308. Did the whole full size resizing and reloading procedure. Took the forty reloaded .303 rounds and successfully chambered them in all the Enfields. Took the forty .308 rounds and successfully chambered those into the NATO enfield and my Tactical system. Every Hornady case had the start of an internal separation just above the base. I cut two of the cases in half initially and then every tenth one after. Hornadys responded by saying I over charged the cases. I countered that I use the minimum charges in all my reloads,never had an issue until I reloaded these Hornady cases. Not our problem they said,double and triple check the next time you reload they said. I responded by stating I will double and triple check that every round I shove up his @@5 goes fat end first. My suggestion will be that,if you have any Hornady brass,smash that crap flat with a huge hammer and shrug off the money spent on it...
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Pukka Bundook
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not sure what your problem was, but if used over in the same rifle, it's best with the .303 to just neck size.
Sounds like the brass is hard and overworked taking it back down to original factory size.
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Shamu
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Sounds horrible. Have you tried annealing a few then resizing just to see?
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Goosic
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Pukka. This brass was brand new until last week when I ran them through my rifles. That being said, they have not been over worked. The full length resizing the first time around did not seem unreasonable. I have forty more rounds of Hornady I just shot today,(once fired now). I am going to full length resize these for a base test to see if I get the same issue.
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britrifles
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I wonder if the brass is undersize in length from rim to shoulder. Could be that there is too much case stretch on first firing. If you have a case gage, you could compare the unfired and fired cases and see how much they are streatching. I suspect if you drop an unfired cartridge into the gage, it will bottom on the case rim and not really tell you much.
I’ve not tried Hornady brass in .303 or .308, but have used it in .30-06 full length sizing for reloading for the M1 rifle. Not had any issues. |
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SW28fan
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I have not had much luck wit Hornady Brass either. I got some 30-06 Brass and it did not fully obturate (Talk about vertical stringing) I also had to spend two hours cleaning the rifle afterwards.
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