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artyldr01
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Topic: Help Identifying P1907 BayonetPosted: September 21 2025 at 2:38pm |
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he!!o. I acquired this bayonet to go with my 1916 B.S.A. No I MkIII* that has much of the green protective paint remaining.
This bayonet is made by Enfield in 1919 I believe. It has the remnants of black paint/Suncorite on the pommel. I believe both the rifle and bayonet indicate WW2 service, possibly in tropical climates die to the Green and black paint. Am I correct? Does the W on tbe scabbard mean Winchester? Can anyone advise and can anyone identify the markings on the frog? Photos are at the link below. Thank you! |
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Posted: September 21 2025 at 4:40pm |
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I think you have a little confusion here about paints. "Suncorite" was the hard stove enameled black finish on later rifles. The green paint was a field-expedient contingency to reduce corrosion particularly under the wood-line. I've never heard of it being used on bayonets. They were usually blued. The green/tan/Khaki whatever paint seems to be whatever was available at a low level when the order was received to replace the carbolated petroleum jelly that was "issue" at the time.
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Posted: September 21 2025 at 4:51pm |
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Tha k you for the education!
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Posted: September 21 2025 at 4:59pm |
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Winchester didn’t make scabbards
The W if I remember correctly means Waxed - kind of like water proofing
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Posted: September 21 2025 at 5:35pm |
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the round stup on the scabbard makes it correct vintage for the blade , the clearing hole just ahead of the latch button indicates your probably correct in the 1919 date as well , rifle may well have seen service in both world wars if nothing else other than home guard but after dunkirk most anything serviceable was pressed into service , the bayonet probably only WWII ,
both look like nice pieces and much like you i had bayonets for all my rifles in my collection that would accept them , i do have a trainer or two that dont , congrats
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Posted: September 21 2025 at 8:13pm |
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Thank you for the knowledge on the W and vintage. Any ideas in the frog manufacturer or date?
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Posted: September 22 2025 at 9:33am |
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Having a hard time on the frog, date looks like 1945 & stores number being a late-war feature goes along with that. Will have to check my references when I get home from work.
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Posted: September 24 2025 at 8:35am |
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C&H?
Campbell & Heeps, Victoria? Not really sure, that presumes I’ve got the date right, could also be 1954 some European country. Australia never made a universal frog with a hole in the tape for a No.4 scabbard. While your P1907 is through the tape itself, rather than between them, it doesn’t appear reinforced so may just be ersatz. Probably need to do a deeper dive, but my time is limited so this is the best I’ve got so far.
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Posted: September 24 2025 at 9:20am |
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Thank you all for the help!
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