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aalbert1 
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 Topic: Identifying and Value of My Enfield No.4 MK1/2?Posted: October 18 2024 at 9:35am |
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Hey all,
I recently picked up a lee enfield mk1/2 from a local here who has had it for 10 years as well as 100 rounds of british .303 . I am looking to get more information on it since I unfortunately wont be keeping this one in my collection as I need to move it for another k98. I am a Mauser guy so Lee Enfields are out of my scope of knowledge (for now!, I have my Sten mk3 to pair with it and plan on getting another lee enfield someday.). Based on research this is a war time issue No.4 Mk1 that was FTR in 1949 and then it had the green rust prevention spray on it. I am not too sure from there so I took pictures of every stamped marking and markings on the stock. I do know its non import marked. If anyone could break down and identify all the markings on it as well as what the value of the rifle is id appreciate it! It was a super fun rifle to shoot and really accurate!             |
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britrifles
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 6:37am |
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It appears to be a 1941 No. 4 Mk I produced at ROF Maltby based on the serial number. Although 1941 seems a bit early for the “AX” prefix. Maltby rifle serial numbers begin with 1, Fazakerley a 2 and BSA Shirley a 3.
The rifle was then FTR’d (Factory Thorough Repair) in 1949 at ROF (F) Fazakerley which consisted of the upgrade to the Mk 2 hung trigger and usually a new stock set and new barrel. This changed the rifle designation to No. 4 Mk I/2. These conversions usually resulted in a mix of parts (new and used) from different manufacturers to reassemble the rifle. New Faz made five groove barrels were typically installed. The markings on the barrel at the muzzle were required as part of the sold out of service scheme (1954 Proof Laws). The rifle was proofed at the Birmingham proof house to fire a standard load of 18.5 Tons per square inch breech pressure. 2.222” is the max cartridge case length and the bore is .303 inch. Is there a stamped serial number on the bottom of the forend between the front band and sling swivel band? Does the serial number on the back of the bolt handle match that of the rifle? As to value, perhaps $700-$800, but you can search online to see what a No. 4 is selling for currently. The No. 4 Mk I/2 and I/3 conversions are quite common in the US. |
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 8:02am |
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I see non conversations ones more in North Carolina.
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 10:11am |
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Thank you! I do know kinda the price of the No.4 MK1 non converted but I wasnt sure on the price of mk1/2s.
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 10:28am |
I will take a look at the forend and see if their is a marking.
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 12:21pm |
They all fetch about the same. Plenty of Mk I/2 and I/3 here in the US. The ones that fetch a premium are the Mk 2 rifles still in the wrap. And Mk I(T)s of course. As a shooter, I prefer the Mk I/2 or Mk I/3 over an original Mk I or Mk I* because the conversions generally have a better barrel and not a lot of use. |
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 12:54pm |
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I will have to look for one.
Thanks!
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Posted: October 20 2024 at 6:42pm |
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looks a nice rifle to me but ive been out of the buy/sell so long anything i added would be worthless ,
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 1:03pm |
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Thanks everyone for the help! Ill still get that one picture on the forend marking.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 2:29pm |
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Also check the serial number on the back of the bolt handle. Does it match the serial number on the action body? That’s important for knowing the bolt has been properly fitted to the action.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 3:02pm |
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If the bolt does match the action I walk.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 3:17pm |
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Ill have to take a look once I get home this week. I shot it 10 times and I had 0 issues with it. Not sure if i can link youtube videos here but she shot great. Im not sure if its the matching bolt Is that common for ftr enfields? i would figure since its a mishmash of parts it wouldnt be the matching bolt.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 3:45pm |
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Here in Canada, a complete matching No4 will fetch over a $1000. Pre covid/firearms ban(04/2020), they were $500-$700. Prices are creeping up quickly here.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 4:21pm |
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I have noticed lately No.4's are staying pretty steady at the $1000'ish price Shiloh mentioned. No.1's are around $1500.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 4:31pm |
Ya its hard to stay in the collecting hobby at todays prices. I`ve been on the look out for a nice 1939/40 or 41 BSA No3, when I find one the prices are insane.
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Posted: October 21 2024 at 6:10pm |
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In my area that would be a $500 maybe $550 rifle.
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