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    Posted: September 17 2019 at 6:31am
Gents,
A good pal recently died up here in Canada, and his brother in the US would like one of his rifles.
I do not know at present whether this one is antique or not.
If not antique, what is required to sent it down into the "States?
 
Thanks for any daylight on this,
 
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PS, The "Worth it? " thread made me think to ask  you guys!
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Methinks that if its a Communist Block weapon, they can't import it any longer. (I could be wrong...once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken).
Seems to me Rhino went thru that scenario once upon a time, & it didn't end well.
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Thanks for the link, Sham.
 
Bit more info;
It's a 1902 made Ithaca double -barreled 12 gauge. 
 
I think his brother is up for the Memorial service, (Will know soon) so if he is, maybe he could just take it back, as long as he declared his intent?
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I don't know Canadian law well enough to make a comment I'm afraid. Can a brother legally inherit a shottie there?
Once he owns it I don't see a problem.
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Sham, I think anyone can inherit, but if Canadian would have to have a Possession and acquisition licence .
Do you need such a thing in the "States? 
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I beleave it can be done, maybe??
He will need to have it brokered, thats the easiest way.
I had a rifle imported up to Canada from Arizona last year through Aztec Amouries, cost a bit but worth it in the end..
I know thers lots of paper work involved.
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Not in most states.
I think CA, NJ & MA you need a "FOID" (Firearms Owners ID) which amounts to the same thing.
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I shipped an 1896 Lee Enfield receiver south with zero problem. In Canada, it is non restricted. In the USA it is antique.

I just packaged it up and mailed it with tracking.

The onus was on the US recipient to prove its age and antique status at customs. Their ability to own etc.

I marked the customs declaration 'Antique 1896 rifle receiver'.

They got a phone call, it cleared, then it arrived at their door.
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Gents,
The chap was up for his brother's memorial service.
 
With a copy of Bro's death certificate, and a letter from executor, (The deceased's wife), he'd like to  take it home with him.... hoping to anyway.  (driving across border)
I am awful hazy about him getting it to the border, as he has no Canadian licence for one....
 
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Couldn't he get the executor to send it via a company that can handle the paperwork? I know there are companies to get US guns into Canada, but I don't know about the other direction.

Shame it wasn't a few years older, or it would be an antique and easy to deal with.

Edit: actually, or would it? I don't remember if shotguns count as antiques here.
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1-800-731-4000, is the number to call.
I think he`ll be able to get a temp non residence PAL to posses the shot gun, the RCMP will be able to advise on the boarder crossing, the US gov`t will be able to advise on whether the shot gun is allowed for import.
lots of hoops to jump through.
Best bet would be to call IRUNGUNS, they broker firearms, I beleave in both directions. www.gunbroker.com
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Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Methinks that if its a Communist Block weapon, they can't import it any longer. (I could be wrong...once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken).
Seems to me Rhino went thru that scenario once upon a time, & it didn't end well.

I brought in 2 CZ-50 pistols , and a Voere Titan II rifle when I came back state side ! When I was going through Frankfurt air port I was taken down with a pistol stuck into the back of my head as they frisked me , now I was in uniform !  
Then I was escorted to a room by 2 Polizie and the undercover guy and they went through my gun case !!  inspected the weapons looked at my paper work and asked multiple questions and if I had ammo ...
had me put everything back in the case , put security tap on the case and escorted me back to the terminal where I had to put the case in whole baggage,
then I got on the plane , and as I was waiting to take off the pilot said we had a delay , I looked out the window and they were unloading the bags , they got to mine and they went through it !!
When we landed in Atlanta , I grabbed my bags and gun case from the carousel and proceeded to customs ....
When I got up for my turn to declare what I was bringing back, the customs agent asked me to open the gun case....
Well!  he looks the fire arms over and asked for the ATF paper work, as I was getting it out my brief case he said those are east block weapons !  I said yes!  Used by the Czech secret police ! he then tells me that there is a ban on east block weapons entering the states at this time !!I said I have permission from ATF to bring them back !
Well he looks at my Dress Greens and says he collects military patches and that he does not have a 3rd Infantry Division patch in dress green !! so I rip the patch off and hand it to him ... he says let me check on this , and comes back puts another seal on the case and hands my paper work back and sends me on my way !!!!
I still have that pistol today !!!
As for what y'all are talking about today, I think we are under another ban for importing Russian fire arms and other such items ... I may be wrong but it would be wise to check ... dont think they will be as nice in customs today as they were 30 something years ago !
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amen to that , i have no dog in the fight but seems that even with proper paper we are living in communist country in may ways these days - wonder if those that are pushing us there have any idea where they will fit into the bigger scheme once they succeed ? 
i rather liked our freedom pre 68 
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Well fellas, I'll let you know how this turns out.
 
Hopefully no take-downs  and guns stuck in backs of heads this time!
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