lee enfield 1949 mk3 410

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   I have a 1949 enfield mk3 410 ga single shot. question: can I remove the wood block off plate and return the weapon back to a magazine feed rifle? if so what parts would be necessary? would it cycle 410 brass loads? how is the block off plate fastened? there looks like 4 pins that are driven in through the sides of the stock, 2 on each side with wood plugs covering them? im just guessing there pins under the wood plugs. the lower stock will not come apart from the rest of the rifle. has anyone done this? 

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sturat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: March 26 2024 Location: shelbyville In Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote sturat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: lee enfield 1949 mk3 410 Posted: March 26 2024 at 12:14pm
	I have a 1949 enfield mk3 410 ga single shot. question: can I remove the wood block off plate and return the weapon back to a magazine feed rifle? if so what parts would be necessary? would it cycle 410 brass loads? how is the block off plate fastened? there looks like 4 pins that are driven in through the sides of the stock, 2 on each side with wood plugs covering them? im just guessing there pins under the wood plugs. the lower stock will not come apart from the rest of the rifle. has anyone done this?

A square 10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 16998	Post Options Post Reply Quote A square 10 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 27 2024 at 12:38am
	these were all made in india , i doubt there was a distinct way to tell how much was altered , i had both the conversion to brit 310 and the americanized conversion to US 410 in these , neither had a magazine , both had the wood bloc , they were intended 6o be a single shot as altered , that said , ive always thought one could do it but im not sure the mag would feed nor do i know what might be required to restore the mag well , i dont know why it could not be restored to a functioning system if the parts are there or attainable and i should think they would be easily , i should think the wood block was made to fit the opening but ,,,,there is always the possibility they were forced to fit and damaged the original configuration , they were intended vto limit the3 ability of these by the brits as they were issued to the indians , if you go thru with this post the process , im sure others will want to know ,

sturat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: March 26 2024 Location: shelbyville In Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote sturat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 27 2024 at 7:23am
	thanks for your input. what my main concern is getting the lower stock off so i can dive into seeing what i need to do without ruining the stock! i can just buy a lower stock and just tear the original one off, dont want to do that and bust up the original parts! stock is in very good shape!

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	Not practically. You'd need a replacement barrel, new forend, new bolt & bolt-head, plus fitting in addition to the magazine.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

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	You`d have to figure out how the wood block was pinned. Either screws with wood plug on top or through wood dowels. You`d also have to figure out how the loading platform is attached, to the wood block, receiver or both. Other than that I don`t think there`s much else done to it. I do remember reading about changing one of these to feed from a magazine, but it was a long time ago. From what I recall it was doable but took a bit of work to get the mag and loading ramp to work correctly.

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	If the mag release has been removed you`d need replacement, or just replace the whole trigger guard assembly, obtain a correct magazine and start fiddling.

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	its done. i got the lower off and chiseled the wood floor plate down to the wood dowels and cut the dowels from the inside. the block off plate was removed by driving the rivets from the outside towards the interior. the stock will cover the holes left behind. the sight will need to have the rivet driven out and lock nut aqiured. next will be acquiring the mag parts and the mag install.

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	Check all the online gun shops, gun boards, and any other forum that discuss Enfields. Look for a Gibbs/Navy Arms 45/70 Single Stack Magazine for a LE. It should work...

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	What about the barrel? Its been reamed from .311" rifled to .410 smoothbore & the chamber modified to take the shot-she!!s.?
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

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	I have heard you can fire form 303 to 410 brass?
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	Yes you can. it needs to be heavily annealed first though. you blow the entire neck & shoulder out & forward. That's ONLY for the short chambered cases though, if its chambered for standard .410 hulls it won't work.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

paddyofurniture Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: December 26 2011 Location: NC Status: Offline Points: 7942	Post Options Post Reply Quote paddyofurniture Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March 28 2024 at 2:24pm
	Good to know.
	Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.

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	if its reamed to US 410 you can buy US 410 brass ,

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	my plan was to retain the 410 cal and load sabots into the brass casings. or select a modern bullet for reloading.

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	Don't forget you also have to work with .410 shotgun pressure levels. Its no longer a rifle but a smooth-bore shotgun & the old proofs mean nothing with the barrel reamed out.
	Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)

sturat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: March 26 2024 Location: shelbyville In Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote sturat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April 01 2024 at 8:15am
	I might add. that I will be consulting a Vietnam vet that has been reloading for years.I wont be configuring the final load. my job for now is to get my ducks in a row and then consult him, as not to waist his time. thank you for your advice on the subject. my goal is to have a 410 with a clip feed mag.