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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

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I am not trying to dissuade you from purchasing the reproduction sniper scope mount from RMS. What I am relaying to you is there is more to it than just drilling and tapping some holes and then bolting everything together. It is very time consuming and if it not done correctly, you are left with a rifle that will never zero. The other issue is the limited choices of scopes that will work with that scope bracket...

No worries, I appreciate the conversation and information! Smile  
In addtion to the detail work required I'm also running into an issue of finding a good 'smith to do the work. I have been looking at the Parker Hale A29 scope base and it looks like the base is relatively easy to source, bur the correct but the mounting block and rings can be a bit more difficult.   One thought I had was to use an old Leupold Adjusto Mount I have by milling the bottom flat and getting the correct mount hole spacing.  For those not familiar with this mount it was used on scopes with no internal adjustments and the rear ring is adjustable for W&E.  With an older Leupold 3X scope it would (at least at a glance) look period correct, more so than a Weaver rail would
 
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There is an old & seldom mentioned alternative!
google the old "indestructable" mount! (link below)
Its made from 1" angle iron & I think you have enough left of the left receiver wall flat to take advantage of it.
Once made you can bolt any one of a number of rail sections to it (with very careful alignment) & go from there with standard rings & so on!
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

There is an old & seldom mentioned alternative!
google the old "indestructable" mount! (link below)
Its made from 1" angle iron & I think you have enough left of the left receiver wall flat to take advantage of it.
Once made you can bolt any one of a number of rail sections to it (with very careful alignment) & go from there with standard rings & so on!

Although I admire the ingenuity and resourcefulness of that solution it's pretty much the look I am trying to avoid for this rifle.  
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Originally posted by yumastepside yumastepside wrote:

A very nice looking rifle....all scope mounting problems aside, I would like to see the underside of this stock to see how the trigger guard and magazine are attached....any chance of a pic with the action out of the stock??
Roger

Let me know if there are any other angles you want to see.   The front trigger guard screw attaches to a small block glass bedded in and is only used to secure the trigger guard  Near as I can tell on my bathroom scale it weighs in at +/- 5.75 lbs






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Thanks for that, they're excellent pictures, that makes a nice light sporter at 5 and 3/4 pounds.
Sorry to be a pain but could I get a pic directly down on the rear tang without the bolt and one from the rear looking forward into the action.

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Wow! They totally destroyed a Savage U.S. marked receiver to put it in an aftermarket stock.
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Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Wow! They totally destroyed a Savage U.S. marked receiver to put it in an aftermarket stock.

Yeah, it was a wildly different world 50 years ago *shrugs* Geek
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There was a fad for it "back in the day"
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To each his own, I always say. Interesting rifle, to say the least! Betting it generates discussion at the range and it appears to be very well done!
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I'm actually quite surprised at how much bedding compound was needed to get the action body to sit squarely inside the stock.
I'm not knocking this in any way, just surprised at it all...
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Originally posted by yumastepside yumastepside wrote:

Thanks for that, they're excellent pictures, that makes a nice light sporter at 5 and 3/4 pounds.
Sorry to be a pain but could I get a pic directly down on the rear tang without the bolt and one from the rear looking forward into the action.

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Again, thanks for the photo's.
I think its an excellent example of gunsmithing ingenuity and skill. The workmanship appears first rate and its a great looking sporting rifle and also a piece of gunsmithing history.

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Definitely a conversation starter. 
I keep thinking about your concerns about scoping the rifle and after looking at all the pictures you have shown us, it is my opinion and mine alone that you should just locate a Parker Hale front ramp sight off of eBay, "there are several" and sweat/solder it to the end of your barrel. It is too nice of a rifle the way it is...
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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

Definitely a conversation starter. 
I keep thinking about your concerns about scoping the rifle and after looking at all the pictures you have shown us, it is my opinion and mine alone that you should just locate a Parker Hale front ramp sight off of eBay, "there are several" and sweat/solder it to the end of your barrel. It is too nice of a rifle the way it is...

Agreed, my eyes say 'scope' but my heart is saying irons.  My left eye is getting upgraded to a cataract free version in October and I'm curious to see how that effects things.  I'm right handed and that eye isn't quite bad enough yet for insurance to pay for that one but it will be interesting to see the difference  
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I agree with Goosic.  I’d get a front sight.  I’m really curious how well this rifle will shoot. 
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me too - ive refrained from interjecting my opinions so far as ive admired the efforts one might go to to revise , improvise and alter an original design that functions just fine , i get it that someone might do this , particularly if it was all thy had to work with in a tight economy on limited means , the efforsts are commendable and the results equally so , but as a a great shooting rifle im at a loss as to why ? 

ive lways steered away from these threads as i like to have good things to say , as i said i admire the workmanship and ingenuity im just unclear what the intent was and why ? the enfield offers so much to those that embrace them , there are others that fit a one piece stock that offer equal opportunity to modify , why the enfield unless it was a challenge one could not get past - then why come to an enfield site to unveil it ? just asking , please explain me . 

BTW no real flame nor any other attack intended , mostly curious , ive no real interest beyond that 
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