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    Posted: February 28 2021 at 3:49am
I bought this deactivated school cadet rifle in South Africa. Any information about it would be appreciated. It was advertised as BSA C2. Many thanks, Kim
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Your rifle started out as a "Long-Lee" Lee-Enfield and has seen many, many modifications during it's lifetime.  

When it started out, it probably looked something like this:  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Rifle%2C_bolt-action_%28AM_1962.132-1%29.jpg

If you're interested in a detailed research project, pick up a copy of Skennerton's Small Arms Identification Series No. 7 (S.A.I.S. No.7, Magazine Lee Metford & Magazine Lee Enfield Rifles)  which will have detailed information about what your rifle started out like.  


After that, it gets more complicated.

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Many thanks, that is a great help. Take care
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It was originally made for civilian use (The B.S.A.co & the stacked rifles graphic weren't on military rifles), instead they had a "Royal Cypher" (crown). But the front band IS military as it has the "broad Arrow" Property of the crown mark, so it not original to the rifle.
At some point it was in South African military service too (arrow in a "U" stamp) is also a property mark.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Your rifle is probably one of the commercial Long Lees rifles commandeered during the Second World War, used for training and later converted into a cadet rifle. They were finally deactivated during the 1970s. I am very familiar with these; as a cadet I had to carry one!  Your example is the version issued to the senior cadets. The juniors were generally issued with Martini Enfield Carbines.

I attach photos of your rifle's original appearance and another of a "senior cadet carbine" to which I have added a magazine. My example obviously escaped prior to deactivation.



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interesting rifle , thanks for presenting it and inspiring this discussion , i was going to give you much of what has been presented but those before me said it better and with personal attachment - always the best info , you have a very nice item not often seen and one to be pleased with , 
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