I'm so glad that we have opened a forum devoted to the 7.62mm conversions. They are my favorite shooting rifles -  especially the Enforcer.

Britrifles, From a rest, and on several occasions,  the Enforcer has given me a cloverleaf at 100 m.  The last time I shot the L42 was several years ago at a 200/300m competitive shoot.  I came first.

I used the Envoy quite bit in my younger days with very satisfactory results.  The L39 is my latest acquisition and has only been tried out once by a friend, who liked it very much.

Unfortunately, the last two rifles have iron sights and should their aging owner now shoot them, they would be seriously disadvantaged! A younger shooter would be more suited to pass judgement on their present accuracy!     

Out of curiosity terrylee. Is the Enforcer the better rifle due to the Pecar scope being the better setup over the No32?

I only ask because to me, all four rifles should produce near identical groupings with each rifle having the same hammer forged heavy barrels correct?

My last question has to do with the L42A1 retaining the Mk1 trigger arrangement over the Enforcers Mk2 trigger arrangement and does it give it the advantage over the L42A1?

Michael

Is terrylee's Enforcer better than his L42A1 because of the,"trigger arrangement" between the two? 

The L42A1 conversion was done using existing No4Mk1 T actions with existing triggers pinned to the trigger guard as you are no doubt aware. The Enforcer on the other hand had the upgrade of the trigger being hung from the action. Not that Parker Hale was the facility doing the upgrade, just they were using actions with the trigger upgrade already in place. I can see how confusing my question to terrylee would seem to you given your assumption that I was not using proper wording in the description of the Enforcer action and for that I apologize to you good sir...

To my experience, both my L42 and Enforcer have proved to be very accurate rifles when using Belgian manufactured NATO ammunition. However, their scopes are 1940s and 1970s technology respectively and cannot be fairly compared. Just from a selfish user's perspective I far prefer the Pecar! Even that is dated having to be re-sighted when the magnification is changed.

From a technical perspective, my Enforcer's Mk 2 body mounted trigger is theoretically superior, though in practice my L42 never gave me any problems.  Perhaps that has something to do with the very stable climate where I am based. As could perhaps be expected with an ex-military rifle, the actual trigger pull of my L42 is slightly heavier than that of my Enforcer, but both are within acceptable limits: 4/6.25 and 3/5.25.

Finally, I can mention that my Enforcer, No. 54x, does not have a hammer-forged barrel, but rather the later machined version.   Terry.    

But this is no longer grandpa's battle implement and nothing matters in this stage of its life..........

That's odd. Polishing those should reduce creep & stacking, but not greatly affect weight of pull!

Maybe you changed the angle of the cocking piece slightly?

For a target rifle I wouldn't be worried as long as it passes the cock-bump test. (cock the UNLOADED rifle then sharply tap the butt on a piece of wood a few times). if it trips you have a problem.

No change of angle and it passes the bump test.

I used a very fine jewlers rouge impregnated with diamond powder. The two stage trigger pull is present but not as noticeable. All the pressure/contact points are simply very very smooth. I used a digital trigger pull gauge and the trigger enters the first stage right at 28 ounces/ 1lb 12oz. As you pull past the first stage the trigger releases at just under 34 ounces/ 2lb 2oz. Not too light and nothing that would be considered dangerous.

Those of you in the UK and Europe (and probably AU and NZ) may only have targets stands at at 100 and 200 meters.  Most ranges in the US will have targets at 100 and 200 yards (and beyond at some ranges).

Targets are also different, the most common in the US being the NRA Short Range (SR) target for 200 yards, and the SR-1 target reduced for 100 yards.  There are other reduced targets that are more challenging like the MR 31, the NRA Medium Range Target reduced for 100 yards.  You can get all of these targets and more from the American Target Company.

For a strictly fun match on a target that is easy to score well on would be the SR-1 target at 100 yards.  Shoot 10 shots prone, no support under rifle.  Service sights only.  Those who want to shoot scope or off the bench we could have an “unlimited class”.   

A few of us on this forum are competitive by nature, others here are strictly collectors, others are hunters.  To each his own I say.  

I am one who has a interest in old military rifles, and I also enjoy competitive shooting.  What really interests me is competitive shooting with old military rifles.  

It is competition that drives us to improve.  You can do only so much by competing with yourself, but, like playing chess with yourself, it becomes rather lonesome after a while.   I enjoy shooting matches to meet up with people who have similar interests and we learn from each other.  Shooting in matches with a large number of competitors is entirely different than shooting alone against yourself. For me it is anyway...

The thing with an “official” match, it’s not so easy to cheat and we all shoot in practically the same conditions.  We all have good days and not so good days.  I only win matches when I have a good day and my best shooting buds have bad days :-) 

There are several online (& so international) sites with a HUGE variety of "print them at home" targets on 8 1/2X 11" paper. The targets aren't the problem ever. Its the shooters.

They would rather talk about it than do it (present company excepted).

Oh well, I’ll continue to participate in the matches, it’s what makes me tick.  But, I would be honored to meet forum members such as yourself in person and shoot a friendly match.  

It would be a sight to behold to see a firing line of 20 or 30 Lee Enfield shooters.  My “Home Range” can handle 54 shooters on the line at the same time...200, 300 and 600 yards without having to move or even post a target.  All electronic.  

My range uses paper SR-1supplied targets with wooden frames. I use 12"×18" Dirty Bird Shoot N See targets because of the high visibility Red centers. I was told that the SR-1 target the range uses is not correct in size however, shown here in comparison to my 12x18 store bought target. I do not shoot past 200 yards so the validity of the target is not of importance to me so long as I can get the shots in the black.

That SR-1 target looks right to me.  If you measure the x, 10 and 9 ring diameters, they should be:  1.35 inches, 3.35 inches and 6.35 inches respectively.  These are the “official” dimensions of the NRA Military Short Roange (reduced to 100 yards) Target. 

The MR-31 (600 yard MR target reduced to 100 yards) is more challenging: 0.75” X ring, 1.75” 10 ring and 2.75” 9 ring.  In modern Service Rifle matches, prone slow fire is shot at 600 yards with a 12 inch diameter 10 ring. Reducing the MR target down to 100 yards results in a 10 ring only 1.75 inches to account for the diameter of a .30 cal bullet.  I know, sounds confusing, but at 600 yards, theoretically, a center to center spacing of 12.30 inches could score a 100 points (a bullet hole touching the score ring counts for the higher value).  So, the 600 yard MR 10 ring reduced at 100 yards is calculated by 12.3/6 - .3 = 1.75.