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Topic: Enfield Oiler Markings List is now mobile-friendly
Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Subject: Enfield Oiler Markings List is now mobile-friendly
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 3:22pm
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The Enfield-Stuff Fast Mark Finder list of markings found on Lee-Enfield oil bottles/oilers has been updated. The 100+ markings are (mostly) in alphabetical order. The list is here: https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-1_fast_mark_finder_oilers.html" rel="nofollow - Enfield-Stuff Oiler Fast Mark Finder If you have an oiler marking that is not on the list, I would very much like to hear from you. A
list of oiler markings organized by country is here: https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers.html" rel="nofollow - If you know nothing about Lee-Enfield oilers/oil bottles, start here: https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-2_field_guide.html" rel="nofollow - Enfield-Stuff Field Guide to Lee-Enfield Oilers If you have a new or unknown
mark, I would very much like to hear from you.
Enfield-Stuff |
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 1:38am
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Thanks for posting. I'll have to have a look at my oiler's . I also have a butt disc that I want to identify so maybe your site can help with that too. Zed. ------------- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 2:08pm
| nice , should be a sticky at the top |
Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 4:07pm
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A sticky, absolutely yes! ------------- Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 5:01pm
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Let me see if I can do that. Apparently not. HOADIE! can you lock it?
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 10:28pm
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UPDATE 2021-02-09 Nigel Utting (Bailiwick of Jersey, Channel Islands,
British Isles) has been busy. First, he
picked up an ultra-rare, never-before-reported, Nobel Explosives Company marked
oiler (SEE Oilers: England https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-3_makers_ENG-2.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-3_makers_ENG-2.html ); shortly thereafter he
unearthed some rare South African Small Arms Committee minutes of Jan 1942 and June
1942 that outline orders placed and received for oilers from AECO – a
documented link to “Associated Engs” – as well as several other previously
unknown South African manufacturers of oilers. (See Oilers: South Africa https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-6_makers_ZAR.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-6_makers_ZAR.html )
Thank you, Nigel!! Thank you, FlightRN/GunBoards (USA) for the picture
of the previously unreported Afghan Type 04 oiler. (See Oilers: Afghanistan https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-8_makers_AFG.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-8_makers_AFG.html ). If you have an oiler with a mark that isn't listed, I'd love to hear from you. Enfield-Stuff ------------- Enfield-Stuff |
Posted By: SGonger
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 7:30am
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Good info;👍🍻 ------------- Anyone seen the Tardis Box anywhere? 🤨 |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 2:13pm
YAWN...scritch - scritch  lock wot?? ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Shamu wrote:Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 2:21pm
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Mornin' squire!  Make this thread a sticky. Oh, never mind it worked now.  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: beartrapper999
Date Posted: June 19 2021 at 7:36am
here is a pic of oiler top and bottom from commerial rifle posted on rifle
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Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: June 20 2021 at 12:38pm
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Thanks for the picture, BearTrapper999. The bottom of the oiler is rounded, so it's a Mk III. https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-2_field_guide.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-2_field_guide.html The WD (War Department) and Broad Arrow are British government markings. https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/2-codes_marks/2-1_codes_marks_govt.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/2-codes_marks/2-1_codes_marks_govt.html And the Crown/Number/italic B are an inspection stamp from the Birmingham Small Arms Company. https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-3_makers_ENG-2.html" rel="nofollow - https://enfield-stuff.com/Pages/3-oilers/3-3-3_makers_ENG-2.html Mk III oilers are a bit scarce, so it's definitely a keeper. ------------- Enfield-Stuff |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 8:29am
| Being a new member here and purchasing my 1st Enfield N05 Rifle, was there an oiler made for the N05? Yes, the N05 with its Buttpad Assembly doesn't allow an oiler to be stored in its butt stock. What oiler was issued with the N05? |
Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 12:10pm
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I believe they were issued in a tin set, but not 100% sure on that, someone here will know for sure. |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 2:43pm
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Before the tin was issued the oiler and pull through were just kept in one of the basic (ammo) pouches, I believe the tin was issued towards the end of ww2. ------------- Mick |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 5:40pm
| Thanks, shiloh, and Strangely Brown, I'm not planning to do any re-enactments, but I would like to have some original accessories for my N05. I just got in some stripper clips from Northridge International and I did see the cleaning kit they have in a tin. I'm not sure if that's a good price because this is the first time seeing this item. https://www.northridgeinc.com/product-p/smle-10.htm" rel="nofollow - https://www.northridgeinc.com/product-p/smle-10.htm |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 5:44pm
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That's a fair "going price" nowadays. The brush us quite collectable & driving the price up. Just a note its fine for the sake of completeness but avoid actually cleaning with it. They are infamous for grinding muzzles out of round from the inside if not used carefully & correctly. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 7:32pm
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Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 16 2022 at 7:48pm
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Thanks. Goosic, I'll remember that. So many other firearms call them something else. Since we're talking British Rifles, I'll get it right next time. LOLLLL!!!!! Thanks!
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 5:10am
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Stripper clips are what exotic dancers use to hide their high beams, |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 5:45am
Well said, shiloh, they hide their secret Weapons that make a good man go astray!!! Now that I'm older, those days are in my distant past and fading memories. But yes, my Charger Clips are in NOS condition and they are ready and willing to serve at the range, or in the heat of Battle.  I believe I have 2, and 4 in the proper position as to not become locked as they are Charged. I hope I don't get myself in trouble with the moderator for hijacking the Oiler Thread!
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 12:35pm
Small correction "(Magazine) Chargers". ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 1:21pm
Yes, I wouldn't want to make anyone think I was talking about Dodge Chargers!!! ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 5:05pm
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Absolutely not!
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 8:56pm
| you have now been properly tony'd me thinks , and welcome to the group , |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 9:07pm
I'm not sure what tony'd means, good or bad, but thanks A square 10, I feel like I'm home and I'm having a good time. ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 9:17pm
| tony was a member - now departed [RIP] - that was a stickler for proper nomenclature , he corrected . sometimes with a bit of a bite , but was much appreciated here , we all loved his wit as well as his bite , you may now feel like your properly inducted [not sure there is any criteria ] and that was the hazing |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 17 2022 at 9:22pm
I'm happy to be here and I'm glad I found this website. I may not always have the proper terminology, but I'm here as a Yank to learn the way of the Enfield!!!LOL!!!! ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 10:36am
Strippers and clips , indeed!!  Pay attention, grasshopper...& learn well. ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 11:49am
Yes....Sir....hoadie....Sir....I may be a Yank, but I'm a fast learner!!! BTW, hoadie, Sir, in case you missed my comment on another thread, here's a copy for you. hoadie....Sir....could I a Yank adopt you as well? My wife and I did honeymoon on the Canadian side of the Niagara Falls way back in 1986? I need the guidance of an experienced Enfield Rifleman, so I don't confuse a Charger with something the heathens among us refer to them as? I promise I will be dedicated to learn the ways of the Enfield and all its proper terminology and part names, and to become one with my N05 as well as any N04 that may be entrusted to me in the future. Thanks, hoadie....Sir....in advance.   ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 18 2022 at 12:43pm
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Tony has now been superseded (but never replaced) by Hoiadie! Not to worry, Matron still has the dart Tranq gun if it gets overboard.  Mustang: as you may be discovering we have a good sense of humor on here, unlike many sites. Lord help you if Hoadie (being the King of the Gnomes) unleashes his Gnomish army on you! ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 4:54am
Yes, my friend, Shamu, I've noticed, I have a tendency to be that way as well. Who wants to go through life and not he happy and crack a joke or two when the opportune time arises? On the same token, there are many knowledgeable like minded men here, and that's what makes the difference. Cheers!  ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 10:30am
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Sometimes new guys don't get it & assume we're being nasty, instead of funny.  ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 1:17pm
Alert.....Alert!!! Gnome Attack!!! Rifle Squads at the ready.....Don't FIRE Until you see the Whites of their Thighs!!!!! Well done!!! Commence reloading your Stripper Clips.........Ooooooops........ I meat your Magazine Chargers!!! Not to be confused with Dodge Chargers!!!Lollll!!!!!!!!!!. ------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: rb67mustang
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 1:19pm
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Speaking of Dodge Chargers, I'd like mine in Plumb Crazy!!!!!!!!!
------------- pass the ammo, please, the enemy approaches!!! |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 4:59pm
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that sounds a nice color ............. we are never nasty here , we often are a bit casual in our joviality but all is meant in good jest , there is seldom a seriously hard word uttered and i mean this sincerely , we here respect one another - but we do jest and pick at one another a bit when we understand the others get what is really being said , the gnomes have been a fixture for ever , the gnome master is in control and never lets them take over the site ....so far
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Posted By: slowindown
Date Posted: January 20 2024 at 1:39pm
Is this sperryn and company limited? I can’t tell.  |
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 21 2024 at 3:30am
It certainly looks like it, albeit badly struck. ------------- Mick |
Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: July 23 2024 at 7:59pm
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NEW INFORMATION – Canada – Great War (1914-1919) Mk IV Oil bottle makers For many years the manufacturers of most Canadian marked MK IV oilers remained a mystery. Recently Michael Skriletz, ( https://www.youtube.com/@waroffice3791" rel="nofollow - ) pointed us to the Report of War Purchasing Commission, 1915-1916, as well as the Sessional Papers of the Seventy Session of the Twelfth Parliament, Dominion of Canada, 1917, both of which contained a trove of information on suppliers and purchases during the Great War, including “Brass Oil Bottles”. Thank you, Mr. Skriletz. We
are much in your debt for this information.
Until now, the manufacturers of these Unknown Soldiers was a mystery. We now know that “E14” is the Empire Manufacturing Company, London, Ontario, Canada. (See picture 01.) Our example is C-Broad Arrow marked. Mk IV brass oiler. "14" presumed to be "1914". No other marks. We can now document that 18,874 oil bottles at 9 cents each were purchased in 1917. Founded 1906, renamed Empire Brass Manufacturing Company 1920, but retained EMCO as a brand name. The company is still in business today (2024). Nitty gritty details: The Report of War Purchasing Commission, Volumes 1 & 2,
(1916) can be found on Google Books, an invaluable resource of
out-of-print materials in the public domain.
(See picture 02) Starting with the Report of War Purchasing Commission, we searched for “brass oil bottles” and on Page 434, section 3510, found a list of suppliers approved to submit tenders for “Brass Goods (such as Bottles, Oil, Mark IV.; Weights for Pull-throughs, etc.). (See picture 03.) We then turned to the Sessional Papers of the Seventy Session of the Twelfth Parliament, Dominion of Canada, 1917, Volume 1 - Part 3; Volume 52. Again, this was found on Google Books (See picture 04) We searched for “Empire Manufacturing”, and on page ZZ-56, found “Empire Manufacturing Company, London (Ontario, Canada), 18,874 oil bottles at 9c. ….1,698 66.” (see Picture 05) We point out that although the report is dated
1917, there may have been purchases prior to that disbursement. Additionally, the document is silent as to
when those 18,874 oil bottles were actually manufactured. The available record is simply a payment
ledger for that fiscal year.
From the VINTAGE MACHINERY website we learned
that the Empire Manufacturing Company (EMCO)(founded 1906) became the Empire
Brass Manufacturing Company in 1920. EMCO
is still in business today.
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Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: July 23 2024 at 8:04pm
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 24 2024 at 3:39am
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EMCO is primarily a plumbing distributor these days. They are located across Canada with 500 locations. (I know all kinds of useless stuff!) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 24 2024 at 3:40am
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OH! BTW - I meant to say WELL DONE, DAVID!! (Enfield Stuff) ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: July 24 2024 at 10:51am
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Nicely done. Thanks. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: July 24 2024 at 5:13pm
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Hoadie, Shamu, thank you for your kind words. I'll be posting updates on three more Canadian oilers shortly, then on to the Canadian bore viewers. ------------- Enfield-Stuff |
Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: July 31 2024 at 3:29pm
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UPDATE #2 – Canada – Great War (1914-1919) Mk IV Oil bottle makers We next turned our attention to the oilers marked “HB-15”. We now know that “HB-15” is almost certainly the Hamilton Brass Manufacturing Company Ltd., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. (See picture 01.) Our example is C-Broad Arrow marked. Mk IV brass oiler. "15" presumed to be "1915". No other marks. The list of approved suppliers (see picture 02) whose name began
with “H” yielded two candidates, Hahn Brass Company Ltd. (Galt,
Ontario) and Hamilton Brass Manufacturing Company Ltd. (Hamilton,
Ontario). Happily, both names turned up in the Sessional
Papers ). Our search for “Hahn Brass” turned up one result (Page ZZ-60) for (identity) “discs, 95,000 @ $1.40 per 100; 138,653 @ $15.50 per 1000; express $9.64; 3488.66”. We found no other listings. It is quite possible that Hahn Brass produced oil bottles at some time during the Great War; but at the moment the documentation we have supports Hamilton Brass as our candidate for “HB-15”. We moved on to search for “Hamilton Brass” and on Page ZZ-60, not far below “Hahn” found “Hamiliton Brass Mfg. Co., Hamilton: oil bottles, 14,468 at 9c. 1302.12”. (See picture 03). As with our previous research, we point out that although the
report is dated 1917, there may have been purchases prior to that disbursement.
Additionally, the document is silent as to when those 14,468 oil bottles
were actually manufactured. The available record is simply a payment
ledger for that fiscal year. The Hamilton Brass Manufacturing Company, founded in 1885, was a prominent manufacturer located near the heart of downtown Hamilton, Ontario, and known as the manufacturer of “cash register, office, bank and church fittings”, employing 140 people circa 1900. Although the Company is listed in the 1915 City Directory, we did not find the company listed in the 1920 Edition of Vernon’s City of Hamilton (Forty-Seventh Annual Street, Alphabetical, Business and Miscellaneous) Directory. The Company may have moved outside of the city – or simply gone out of business. Stay tuned for further updates.
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Posted By: Enfield-Stuff
Date Posted: August 05 2024 at 1:15pm
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UPDATE #3 – Canada – Great War (1914-1919) Mk
IV Oil bottle makers ------------- Enfield-Stuff |
Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: August 05 2024 at 2:21pm
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Thanks! ------------- Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts. |