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Forum Name: Hunting with the .303 British cartridge.
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Topic: Need help please
Posted By: martzall80
Subject: Need help please
Date Posted: October 04 2022 at 11:34am
Hi, newbie here to the Enfield. I plan on using it for deer hunting this year in Pa. My rifle has a flip rear sight with a large hole and a small hole. I'm wondering what for rear sight i should get to hunt with. My ranges will be 50-300 yds. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 04 2022 at 4:14pm
Welcome to the forum. If you plan on using that rifle for hunting, leave the flip sight on the rifle and eight through the big hole.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 04 2022 at 4:45pm
Agreed, the flip large is zeroed for 300yds with Mk VII 174Gr ball. If you're using anything else its a bit of a crap shoot, you'll have to work out your own drop tables though.
Personally I don't hunt, but I've found out that a 180 Gr SP is close enough for government work at any sane hunting range (under 300 yds).
The small is 600 yds so you'd have to aim off way low.

If it were me I'd get a Stamped Mk4 The one with the lever curving INWARDS. There's another version curving outwards but it was well known for snagging on things & changing the range unbeknownst to the shooter, & its accompanying spacer. (There's also one with a stamped elevator, but a cast base, you won't need the spacer for that if you can find one).
The peep is about the same as the "L" & it lets you quickly dial in for longer ranges with the slider whilst giving you a better 200yd zero!.
IMO its the best balance between the very basic simple "L" & the Singer micrometer with its bunches of clicks. You just squeeze, slide & release in 100 yd increments!




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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 04 2022 at 7:40pm
welcome , i agree with above - for hunting dont overthink it you will think yourself right out of the hit at "that moment" , the battle sights were designed for just such target acquisition , there is a reason they were used , 


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 04 2022 at 10:01pm
Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.

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14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 9:14am
Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.
The sights in the above photo are the factory issued sights.
The sight you are referring to with the windage adjustment is an aftermarket setup...


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 9:39am
Got it. Thanks.

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14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 11:52am
There are basically 2 windage adjustable rear sights if you ignore all the "target model" aftermarkets like the Parker-Hale & BSA ones.
One bolts to the elevator of the Mark 1 micrometer, giving you windage, but effectively removing the inscribed range scales.
The other is basically a modified Mk1 but it requires permanent & non-reversable modifications to the receiver to fit or work.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 12:24pm
In my opinion, windage adjustment on open sights for hunting is kind of useless, unless we're talking Kentucky Windage! Now if you need left/right adjustment to zero in a rifle at the range prior to hunting season it might be handy, but you can move the front sight in Lee Enfields to accomplish the same thing. Again, just my opinion.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 1:22pm
For zeroing some form of windage adjustment is a good thing. Please not I said "zeroing" not "sighting in", which is a slightly different thing.

But IMO its a "set it & forget it" kind of thing.
Now, if you're shooting paper for tiny groups centered on the X-Ring at a known distance then yes its handy.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 6:35pm
I simplified my rear sight by removing the battle sight part of it.
This allows me to fold the peep sight down and out of the way when the scope is in use. The large ghost ring helps to maintaining target acquisition while the intended target is in motion in my honest opinion...


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 05 2022 at 6:57pm
thats a nice setup , i like that - i need a scope these days 


Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: October 06 2022 at 10:34am
Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

Originally posted by scottz63 scottz63 wrote:

Isn't there one of these sights with adjustable windage as well? I think I have seen one.
The sights in the above photo are the factory issued sights.
The sight you are referring to with the windage adjustment is an aftermarket setup...

P-H4 post war production and was only made for about two or three years before Parker Hale drew inspiration from the AJ Parker 4/47 and made the P-H5c. 
Sadly they come with a collectors price tag these days and regularly fetch £300 ($335) in good condition. 
Pictures nicked from Ebay! 




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Mick


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 06 2022 at 3:13pm
Oh wow! I like that one. And of course they are that expensive. Lol

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14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer


Posted By: terrylee
Date Posted: October 08 2022 at 6:20am
Strangely Brown, Thanks for your tip-off! Didn't realize that these had any value. Now removed from my junk box!



Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: October 08 2022 at 6:30am
Originally posted by terrylee terrylee wrote:

Strangely Brown, Thanks for your tip-off! Didn't realize that these had any value. Now removed from my junk box!

Glad to be of service Terry! Smile

P-H4's are getting to be a scarce sight these days; I don't think I have ever seen one on a rifle at Bisley as the majority of SR"b" shooters I've known prefer the later, (and arguably better) AJP 4/47's and 
P-H5c's. 


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Mick


Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: October 08 2022 at 6:41am
Originally posted by terrylee terrylee wrote:

Strangely Brown, Thanks for your tip-off! Didn't realize that these had any value. Now removed from my junk box!

Awesome!


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14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 09 2022 at 5:05pm
Nice catch fellaghs.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)



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