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150grain Brass bullets!

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Topic: 150grain Brass bullets!
Posted By: Zed
Subject: 150grain Brass bullets!
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 1:09pm
Anybody tried these 150grain solid brass bullets.

https://www.armureriedelabourse.com/ogives/5253-balles-lehigh-defense-303-311-150gr-match-solid-100-boite.html%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.armureriedelabourse.com/ogives/5253-balles-lehigh-defense-303-311-150gr-match-solid-100-boite.html

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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 2:18pm
Couldn’t get the link to work.  I bet they are expensive!  Not sure what load data you would need to use, brass is significantly harder than lead. 


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 2:53pm
They are solid copper cnc machined and said to have exacting tolerances which would make them consistently stable.
I would imagine it would be fairly soft alloy of copper.
Lehigh defense solid match series


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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 3:13pm
I used to have a Ruger No1 in .300 WM and tried Barnes bullets. Solid copper hollow point. That rifle did not like those! It shot 180 gr Speer Grand Slams the best with 82 gr of H1000.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 4:15pm
I found the link working as long as I copy/paste to my browser (firefox).
Lets see if this works?
https://www.armureriedelabourse.com/ogives/5253-balles-lehigh-defense-303-311-150gr-match-solid-100-boite.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.armureriedelabourse.com/ogives/5253-balles-lehigh-defense-303-311-150gr-match-solid-100-boite.html



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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 4:16pm
OK it worked for me, give it a try.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 4:19pm
Quick 'n dirty machine translation.
"Match Solid Match Solid technology uses unique processes to deliver the highest levels of repeatability. While traditional jacketed bullets are produced on multi-stage stamping machines comprised of dies, with each combination of stage and die producing a slightly different bullet, we machine our bullets on state-of-the-art CNC machines to produce incredibly precise tolerances and eliminate manufacturing. changes. SKU: 04311150SP Caliber / Cartridge: 0.311 / 7.62x54R- 303 British"


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 4:32pm
Just make sure you have load data for solid brass bullets, they will produce different pressures for the same weight lead core jacketed bullets.  Lead is much softer than brass.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 14 2022 at 7:05pm
Absolutely!

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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 1:13am
They are soft copper alloy, not brass


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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 3:14am
Copper is harder than lead.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 3:22am
Yes it is.
These are an attempt to pls the environmentalist lobby against the use of lead.
 


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 4:05am
These are a new option at my local Armoury. 
Cheaper than the SMK's. I have enough ogives at the moment; but might be tempted to try these. Providing reliable load data is available.
I was curious to know if any of you had experience with them.


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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 6:22am
I`d like to try them but the price point is saying no.
$65 for 20 bullets, ouch!


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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 6:41am
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:

I`d like to try them but the price point is saying no.
$65 for 20 bullets, ouch!

Yikes!!!  I paid $90 for 500 Speer TNTs which shoot like a laser out to 300 yds.  Use these in my M1 and 03A3, also shoot good in my DCRA No. 4 7.62.




Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 10:44am
That's a lot of money to pay for a .303 projectile considering the accuracy of a Lee Enfield. To rich for my blood...


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: December 15 2022 at 12:07pm
That was a price from a Canadian reload shop.
Last box of 174`s I got was $65/100 count. These would be $325/100 count plus taxes.
Who would buy these to shoot a match, you`d be into 1000`s just for projectiles :sok2


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shoot em if you got em


Posted By: tri483
Date Posted: January 16 2023 at 8:01am
How do i translate the content in the link to english


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 4:31am
LeHigh Defense Target copper solids 150 gr. in .311 are $59.00 for 50 bullets all day everyday in the U.S.  I've shot a ton of them and have found them to be very accurate.  I started off with similar loading data for any other 150 grain bullet and have had no problems.  They are longer than traditional bullets due to lack of lead in them so be aware if you seat them deep enough to fit through your magazine they will intrude into the powder space, even more so with the LeHigh 180 gr. target solids.  They are manufactured with inletted rings so as to not have more surface bearing area than traditional bullets which could have caused higher than expected pressures.  I especially like the long 180 gr. LeHighs in my civilian M.L.E. MkI* which is surprisingly still chambered for the MkVI round.


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 4:34am
Shiloh:  They're $59.00usd per box of 50 here in the U.S.  I shoot both the 150gr. and 180gr. LeHighs on a regular basis.


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 9:11am
About 20 years ago, a box of 500 174 SMKs was just over $80.  And I thought at the time that was a lot.  Now triple that here in the US, if you can get them. 




Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 10:15am
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

About 20 years ago, a box of 500 174 SMKs was just over $80.  And I thought at the time that was a lot.  Now triple that here in the US, if you can get them.

Geoff, £286 ($357) here and as you say, if you can get them! 


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 10:18am
Hard not to think ammo manufacturers aren't being pressured by governments to make a fake "famine" of components. Just another form of gun control.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 10:32am
Two ways.
1: Look up to my earlier post where i did it.
2: Copy/Paste into "Gooogle Translate"! (A handy bookmark to have saved any way)!Star


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by Sapper740 Sapper740 wrote:

Shiloh:  They're $59.00usd per box of 50 here in the U.S.  I shoot both the 150gr. and 180gr. LeHighs on a regular basis.


Yes I said 20 I meant 50/box. Still $59USD is roughly $80(+ tax) Canadian, stupid expensive for only 50 rounds. I also see no distributors in Canada that I can find.
I`m currently spending $65 plus tax for both 150 and 174gr Hornady SP/100 count.


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