1907 Patt Still in use by the British Army?
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Topic: 1907 Patt Still in use by the British Army?
Posted By: Strangely Brown
Subject: 1907 Patt Still in use by the British Army?
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 9:35am
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A little gem I discovered a couple of days ago is that the 1907 Patt bayonet is still on the books in the British army! It's worn by buglers of the Rifle regiment as a side arm, none of the rest of the band wear a belt so its apparently only the buglers that wear it, metal parts are chromed and the rest of the bayonet and scabbard are blackened. Moving onto the Brigade of Guards band, they have opted for something slightly more modern in the guise of the No.7 bayonet for the No.4 rifle. Back in the days when the No.7 bayonet was issued it mainly the Brigade of Guards and the Parachute regiment that were issued with it, a good use for a redundant piece of kit. At 1.08 in the video. ------------- Mick |
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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 10:00am
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Very interesting. No sense letting anything go to waste if it still works! Fast pace for “quick March”.
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Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 10:28am
Yes, 140 paces to the minute rather than my regiments positively sloth 120 paces. ------------- Mick |
britrifles wrote:Posted By: scottz63
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 11:14am
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Nice find! Pretty cool they still use that bayonet. ------------- 14EH AIT Instructor-PATRIOT Fire Control Enhanced Operator/Maintainer |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 1:38pm
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I noticed during HM QE2's funeral the RAF contingent had what looked like No7 Mk1L in that same SOB position.Odd as they were carrying SA80's. They didn't seem to be the SA80 one. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 9:57pm
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do the brits try to hold to time period for funeral processions ? im not at all sure how it works here save i think the honor guard carry what the local facility has been issued , M1903type , M1 , M14 , but i know there have been some military here that saw the M16 , my FIL was of an earlier era , it was M14s at his , i have a blank case from that one , and a M1903 type at my fathers , i have that blank as well , my father was WWII and my FIL was cold war era
i have a VN era friend that is going , one of many ive lost over my time here in MN , i suspect his will be the M16 unless thats forbidden because its current issue , i will add my father was interred in a civilian cemetery next to my mother , my FIL rests in the military cemetery in MPLS/STP , that might have an affect on what might be used , i think the local AMVETS provided the honor guard at my fathers but the military provided my FILs at camp snelling ,
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Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 2:30am
Not particularly; I only ever attended one funeral as part of the firing party way back in 1969. State occasions as we witnessed last year with HM the Queen are a completely different kettle of fish as I'm sure you all witnessed on TV. A UK veteran who served to pensionable age or who has done a tour on ops is allowed a bugler/trumpeter to play the last post at public expense at his or her's funeral. There is a viable trade in the UK amongst ex buglers to hire themselves out for such occasions, I've also seen a privately owned 25 pdr field gun used to transport the coffin, which reminds me that the one military funeral I took part in used a 105mm pack howitzer to take the coffin from the garrison church to the military cemetery up the road. ------------- Mick |
Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 2:46pm
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Its true, we never had anyone who could play a bugle in our lot! We had a rack of cassettes of all the calls & they were played over the Tannoy as needed. I've seen U.S ones where there's a speaker inside the bugle they just lip synch Taps. There was a big stink about it a while back when someone noticed. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2012/09/05/dnt-no-more-taps.cnn" rel="nofollow - https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2012/09/05/dnt-no-more-taps.cnn ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |