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Topic: My new bayonet
Posted By: Kwc271
Subject: My new bayonet
Date Posted: April 23 2023 at 2:24pm
he!!o all,
 I just acquired a bayonet for my Mk3 Enfield and was wondering if anyone can tell me about it, you know, manufacturer, etc. ?  Thanks for your help.
Kevin



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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 23 2023 at 4:35pm
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: April 23 2023 at 4:47pm
A less common Robert Mole and Sons 1907, made, June 1918 they made around 60,000 of these so not too common. Has both BSA and Enfield inspection marks, the X is a bending proof.
The scabbard appears to be of Remington manufacture maybe 1917 as suggested by the 17 stamped on the leather. Not original to the bayonet but possibly reissued as such.
Nice find.



Posted By: Kwc271
Date Posted: April 23 2023 at 5:52pm
Thank you for the information. I had never seen this manufacturer before


Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 24 2023 at 1:36am
Recorded deliveries by 1917, Source British & Commonwealth Bayonets, Skennerton & Richardson.

Wilkinson: 2,360,000
JA Chapman: 300,000
R. Mole & Son: 60,000
Sanderson & Newbould: 1,600,000
Vickers: 10,000
R.S.A.F.: 500,000
Remington: 100,000 (does not include 1913 Patt)



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Mick


Posted By: Kwc271
Date Posted: April 24 2023 at 1:57pm
Wow, kinda rare


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 25 2023 at 8:59pm
very nice , i have one left - my hookie is a 1910 mole , 


Posted By: Kwc271
Date Posted: April 26 2023 at 1:41pm
I wonder why the Crown and “GR” isn’t present, is this common?


Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 28 2023 at 2:03am
Originally posted by Kwc271 Kwc271 wrote:

I wonder why the Crown and “GR” isn’t present, is this common?

Not fully my field of expertise although before marriage I did have a decent collection of 1907 Pattern bayonets; possibly a bayonet for private purchase?

Private purchase SMLE's are without the sovereign's cypher (and year of manufacture) and whilst your Mole is dated I just wonder if it was purchased by a "territorial" soldier.

I have a friend with an extensive collection of 1907's bayonets, I'll ask him!  

Edited to add, I've just noticed the broad arrow on the blade so I suspect it may just be a Mole thing, I'll still ask him! 



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Mick


Posted By: Strangely Brown
Date Posted: April 28 2023 at 6:16am
Here is the reply from my friend Michael mentioned above: 

"My example is marked 9  '15 and Mole with 1907 above that.  Above those marks one can just make out the cypher and GR.  However, the cypher and GR are very feint indeed and only just visible.  The lightness of the stamping may be due to the die becoming worn and it may be worthwhile to have another look at the bayonet in question with a magnifying glass in bright light as I will be quite surprised if the cypher has been omitted altogether."

I hope this helps? 


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Mick


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 28 2023 at 6:34am
Thanks

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 28 2023 at 8:40am
Originally posted by Strangely Brown Strangely Brown wrote:

Here is the reply from my friend Michael mentioned above: 

"My example is marked 9  '15 and Mole with 1907 above that.  Above those marks one can just make out the cypher and GR.  However, the cypher and GR are very feint indeed and only just visible.  The lightness of the stamping may be due to the die becoming worn and it may be worthwhile to have another look at the bayonet in question with a magnifying glass in bright light as I will be quite surprised if the cypher has been omitted altogether."

I hope this helps? 

I'd add "with diffused glancing light" to that!
Like by a window that's shaded or on a cloudy day. swivel & twist the blade to "catch the light" too. You'd be amazed what faint detail that lighting can reveal.Thumbs Up


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 28 2023 at 6:07pm
Mole is one of the rarer ones , the correct nomenclature for yours is the Pattern 1907 , it is intended for the mkIII/III* rifles , yours having been made in 1918 was made as you see it , those made earlier would have had the Hooked Quilon [thats what my 1910 version has] but , a lot of the older ones had that hook removed 

mine is third from the left 





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