Ishapore 2a Scout / Sniper
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Topic: Ishapore 2a Scout / Sniper
Posted By: Moosm14
Subject: Ishapore 2a Scout / Sniper
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 7:40am
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Ishapore 2a 1964 Scout Rifle new walnut stock (hand rubbed teak oil finish) S&K Mount and nos Leupold 2x8 IER scope (rear sight saved) leather 1907 NM sling (Turner Saddlery) 
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Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 4:39pm
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Good looking rifle. Is that a Prestige stock? ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 12:47pm
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Yes sir! It is a Prestge No3 Mkl I requested the not inlet for the usual butt plate It required some other reconfiguration of the inlet if and I still have to inlet the forend reinforcement ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 12:49pm
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Duplicate ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: September 18 2023 at 5:46pm
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Cool, I have the same stock. However, even after contacting Prestige, I wasn’t told that was an option, non- curved buttstock. What do you mean by “Inletting the forend reinforcement “? ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 18 2023 at 8:19pm
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no - its a no1 mk3 if indian and mkIII if brit , ill be tony tonight guys , |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: September 19 2023 at 9:02am
Yes sir - thank you I stand corrected and duly admonished … For the sake of accuracy, so to avoid demerits, expulsion or the the snarkiness of “Tony” (whomever that might be) the correct name of the stock company is “Prestigious Wood Stocks” Not “Prestige” In response to the question Prestigious Wood Stocks does not make a replacement for the Ishapore 2a or 2a1 (mine is a 2a dated 1964) and I had them modify accordingly and hand fit myself. According to the Prestigious Wood Stocks website I ordered from: https://www.prestigiouswoodstocks.com/collections/lee-enfield-mkiii-parts-and-sets" rel="nofollow - https://www.prestigiouswoodstocks.com/collections/lee-enfield-mkiii-parts-and-sets I ordered and they sent me as in the photograph a Lee Enfield No1 Mklll stock set for My Ishapore 2a Hopefully this clarifries any discrepancies and any further corrections might be duly addressed to our Canadian friends at Prestigious Wood Stocks ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 25 2023 at 8:22pm
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for edification purposes only - not to admonish , that was never my intent in my correction , Tony was a member here - now deceased , who was a stickler for proper nomenclature , to his credit his intent was always to have folks here , particularly new members understand how important that was in this collecting area , he also pointed out my poor grammar once in a PM , i noted it was an intentional USE to make a point and he responded that my intent was not so clear as it should have been , i miss him , he and i were/are curmudgeons of the first order to be sure , but his point was always well intended and he was correct in making the POINT - it is crucial in most if not all of our discussions here , as he might say it identifies the heathens in our midst in this case - for what its worth - a no3 mkI would be the pattern 1914 rifle ,
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Posted By: riverman
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 10:00am
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Nice piece of kit! ------------- "I'm your huckleberry" |
Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 8:04am
| Jeff Cooper would be proud! |
Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 8:49am
I used to stop in and chat with Mr. Cooper whenever I was in Paulden. Very easy going and a pleasure to talk to...
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Sapper740 wrote:Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 3:43pm
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Always thought one of these, done properly, would make a good scout rifle. Tanker/Bulldog ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |
Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 2:39pm
That didn't work, let's try it again. ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |
Posted By: Moosm14
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 3:26pm
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FrenchKat, An amazing Ishapore you have there. Was this something you had a hand in or can we surmise this carbine as issued with India’s 61st Horse Mounted Cavalry sir? ------------- There is room for all of gods creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes |
Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 6:46pm
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Not mine, I have a 2A and a 2A1, both unmodified. I got the picture off another old forum. I’ve looked into these before and here is a brief synopsis; these were not factory modded or originally built, this configuration was never used by the Indians. What I’d read is that a bunch of these were imported by Gibbs, which was bought by Navy Arms. Some of the rifles had bad barrels/rifling at the muzzle end. Instead of scrapping the rifles, they cut the barrels to a shorter length (19.2”) and built into either this mod (Tanker/Bulldog) or the Jungle Carbine style. The Tanker/Bulldog had a piece cut out of the fore stock just forward of the outer band. The remaining pieces were glued together. The had a habit of launching the nose cap down range. I bought my 2A1 with the intention of attempting this mod sometime down the road. Even picked up a couple of spare barrels. My gunsmith abilities are up to it, but not my woodworking skills. Like I said, this info came from the internet so it must be true😛. I’m sure someone here knows more of the story then me. ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 7:15pm
| interesting piece |
Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: September 30 2023 at 4:50am
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Check out this video by Ian McCollum regarding the prototype Ishapore "Jungle Carbine". https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ishapore-no6-jungle-carbine-smle-prototype/" rel="nofollow - https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ishapore-no6-jungle-carbine-smle-prototype/
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 4:13pm
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Check your forend! Really! Many of these forends were cut down with a chop saw. Then glued back together! If they'd used a glued & screwed dowel it might have been nice, Particularly with a cross screwed bolt or something, maybe a piece of that "threaded wire"! They are kinda kewl I admit, I have a Sporterised No5 Mk1 "Jungle Carbine", I call it my "Goobermint model Sporter" & I actually like it a lot. Unfortunately many of the post-war conversions weren't that well done & I have seen the entire front wood & muzzle cap go "downrange" when the glue fails!   ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 5:57pm
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while that video is very entertaining , i question a lot of what was given in info , first i never heard of an ishapore jungle carbine , only the brit and ausie , i suspect they might have developed something far later using early production parts donors , i also suspect gibbs and santa fe might have done this - i dont care what an auction house might say , it aint necessarily true as the moody blues said , prove this with researched data , the no 6 rifle was an austrailian rifle , second the bayonet lug they show is the one developed for the no2 and no2A! of a lot later date than the 40s , i question the nomenclature , but as always i could be wrong as i have been in the past , he references those but i still question this as its never been discussed on any forum now referenced in any reference book im aware of not that it couldnt have been overlooked ,
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 01 2023 at 6:17pm
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"Prototype" as in we tried this, but it never went into production. ------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: Frenchkat
Date Posted: October 02 2023 at 2:56pm
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Moosm14 Saw in another thread you were headed for the range last weekend - so? How did it go? ------------- If you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question. It's easier to get forgiven then it is to get permission. |