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Compatibility of Enfield Recharging Clips

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Topic: Compatibility of Enfield Recharging Clips
Posted By: Sirdutch
Subject: Compatibility of Enfield Recharging Clips
Date Posted: May 17 2024 at 2:55pm
I don't have any stripper clips for my Enfield No.4 MK2. Do I need a particular clip to top load my Enfield or are these reloading stripper clips a universal fit among most Enfield variants? Yeah, probably a dumb question. I've simply loaded this rifle one cartridge at a time  in the past as I seldom shoot it. I do love the rifle!

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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: May 17 2024 at 6:45pm
There are numerous Marks of the chargers, some work better than others.  They work with all .303 British Lee Enfield rifles, and expect they also work with the No. 3 P14 Enfield. 

Certainly nothing wrong with loading the magazine one cartridge at a time from the open breech. I do that often. The only reason I use chargers is that they are a necessity for the rapid fire stages in the historic/Vintage service rifle matches I shoot in.




Posted By: Sirdutch
Date Posted: May 17 2024 at 8:13pm
Thank for response!

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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 1:04am
The only point I'd add is some of the chargers are blued while others are parkerized.  The rougher finish of the parkerized chargers make it very difficult to push the rounds into the magazine compared to the blued ones.  I polish the inside of my parkerized chargers before use.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 3:29am
@&CK+#^ stripper clips

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 8:00am
The correct nomenclature for that is 'chargers'.

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 9:48am
You charge a Enfield with ammo.

Stripper is when you take it a part to clean it.

If you chargers are parkerized them you need to polish them with crocus cloth to get them right.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 11:57am
The ones to avoid are the Mk V IIRC. They're easy to tell apart.
1: Rough grayish parkerized finish.
2: All lightening cuts are circular, including the and ones which form the retainer spring for the cases.
3: They say "V" right on themTongue

Good ones on top with the black shiny finish & oval spring cuts,bad ones with ark & round ones on bottom.




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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 12:05pm
The easiest way to remember is gray and oval is the one to have.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 5:32pm
Black & oval?



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Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: May 18 2024 at 5:57pm
As a collector of clips, the finish on the clip is variable and not associated with the model.  The clip that you are referring to as the one to have is the Mk IV* or the Mk 4.

Like the rifles, the * denotes a change not worthy of creating a new mark number.  In this instance, the change from a circular cutout to an oval one on the spring arm.  Unlike the rifles, the * was never stamped onto the charger.  The main issues experienced with chargers and their subsequent changes related to them either being too springy, or not springy enough.  The former results in difficulty to charg and the latter with rounds falling out or rim lock happening.  

The ones marked Mk 4 (rather than IV), are the same Mk IV* design, just produced after 1945, when roman numerals were dropped in preference to arabic numerals.

I currently have 75 different marks/manufacturers in my collection, not including stamp and finish variations.

Here are some blued Mk IV clips:



Here are some Mk 4 clips.  The green (looks more mustard in the picture) is the tropical coating:



Here are some Portuguese clips, that don't follow the standard Commonwealth patterns.  They are know in several finishes.  I have one gray (? nickle) and bare steel.




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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: May 19 2024 at 12:24am
That's an interesting collection!

I use the charger clips when shooting the service rifle competitions. 
I bought a pack of clips on the internet that are absolutely horrible! 
They are Parkerised finish; but it's the steel that makes the difference. It doesn't flex enough. Leaving scratches on the cases and almost impossible to load effectively. However I received a few full chargers with my Resistance No4. They were part of the parachutage to our local Resistance in 1944. So I use those clips for the competitions. There is a world of difference between the two types.
So be very careful if purchasing on the internet! 
If you want an example of what not to buy, I'll send you one . That way you will know what to avoid!


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Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: May 19 2024 at 5:09am
Thanks Zed - at a guess, are they maked Mk 4 and the letter I with a broad arrow over it?  If so, these are late production Indian chargers and the quality is definately substandard.  You commonly see these sold in pack of five or 10 on eBay.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 19 2024 at 6:13pm
AhHa! a charger collector!
I was hoping there's be one out there somewhere!
A question.
what is the purpose of the 3 rd set of teardrop-shaped "pips", further up the sidewalls & facing at 90° to the "normal" ones in other charger marks in the Mk2(IIRC)?



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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 19 2024 at 7:11pm
im glad there is someone with a charger collection , i wish i had started that back when , and oilers and so much more ......but i was busy with revolvers and bayonets back then in addition to my rifles 

the one thing ive been biting my lip on here is that nagging tony moment - to the poster - keep your dollar bills for the strippers - we load or cartridges' in chargers 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 20 2024 at 5:29am
Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

im glad there is someone with a charger collection , i wish i had started that back when , and oilers and so much more ......but i was busy with revolvers and bayonets back then in addition to my rifles 

the one thing ive been biting my lip on here is that nagging tony moment - to the poster - keep your dollar bills for the strippers - we load or cartridges' in chargers 

Good to know.


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Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: May 20 2024 at 5:31am
The third lug remains a mystery as far as I am aware.   

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 20 2024 at 11:41am
Unfortunately that's what everyone tells me!
Unhappy


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Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: May 20 2024 at 4:19pm
I suspect it may have been an indexing feature during manufacturing, as functionality when being used would have been discussed and agreed upon if that were the case.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 3:42pm
Mayhem sent me this as a .PDF because there was a problem uploading the .ZIP file to the site.
I'm in no way the author. That's his prerogative, I'm just facilitating the files getting on here.
click the link to openThumbs Up
Its truly impressive there are variations I'd never even heard of! All beautifully illustrated, give it a gander!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 4:12pm
Thanks!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 4:57pm
Very cool, saved to my resource library(if thats OK), thanx.


Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 5:24pm
Thanks Shamu.

Interesting that it came through as a zip file, as I sent it as a pdf, so unsure what happened there.  

I can take no credit for this document, which was written by Peter Mackinven.  Peter only collects charger clips and I would say that he is the world authority on .303 British chargers.  He is extremely thorough with his research and I am sure he would be happy for people to add this document to their reference material.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 6:58pm
Then I'll do that, thanks.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 23 2024 at 7:02pm
Linky:
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 11:10am
The MKIII chargers are the worst along with the Italian GM marked clips.

The best I have used are the MKII or MKII* chargers.

I collect them also and have a Portugal made one and two rare MKI chargers. 


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 11:32am
I have never soon a Portuguese recharging clip. 

More to look for.

Thanks!


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Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 12:35pm
I have 5 more somewhere but not quite as nice as the one pictured 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by Enfield trader Enfield trader wrote:

I have 5 more somewhere but not quite as nice as the one pictured 

Where did you find them?


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Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 12:39pm
The original one came in a group of chargers - the 5 from a local dealer 


Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 12:49pm
I have around ~ 110 MKII / MKII* chargers 




Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: July 13 2024 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Enfield trader Enfield trader wrote:

I have around ~ 110 MKII / MKII* chargers 



You are a Peron of many chargers.


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Posted By: Mayhem
Date Posted: July 14 2024 at 4:02pm
Do you have a list of duplicate chargers?  I'm happy to send you my list of duplicates.  I'm not sure how common the Australian ones are in the US but would be willing to trade.

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Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: July 14 2024 at 6:17pm
I did have a list but I’ll have to hunt for it - I have 2 Canadian marked MKII or MKII * that I looked at the other day - I sold off a lot but still have a lot 

I’ll get a list together 


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: July 15 2024 at 1:46pm
again , glad to see someone has collections to show on these threads for the edification of all , its what this site is intended to do , educate enfielkd collectors , i like to think our members are the best ones to do it - most often i get confirmation of that in threads like this , thanks to all , 


Posted By: Missippiboy
Date Posted: January 17 2025 at 2:39pm
I bought 2 new PRO MAG 303 magazines and they will not fit my rifle they seem to be more square but look the same size has anyone had this problem?


Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: January 17 2025 at 8:01pm
Pro mags are junk 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 4:19am
Hey Missippiboy: a number of years ago, we held our first Enfield Rifles meet and greet in Batesville.
Richard (Cookie) lives there.

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Posted By: Missippiboy
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 9:12am
Nice, I’ve been to several Gun Shows there they are usually good I wish I’d known about ya’lls Enfield gathering I’ll watch out for it next time 


Posted By: Missippiboy
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 9:25am
I know a Richard Cook not sure if he’s the same guy I actually live between Batesville and Oxford 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 11:29am
I'll second the ding for Pro-Mag!
There's a better choice if you cant find factory originals, more so for non-standard capacities, like the 5-round semi-flush ones popular with hunters. link below.
I was lucky enough to find a "Santa Fe" Japanese made "5 rounder" which actually holds 7, a while back before they became prohibitively expensive.


https://riflemags.co.uk/lee-enfield-magazines/" rel="nofollow - https://riflemags.co.uk/lee-enfield-magazines/


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 11:44am
I have a cut down M1 MK III rusty mag that holds five rounds

Works for me.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: January 18 2025 at 11:51am
I told my oldest Grandbaby they are called chargers.

She told me she saw on line strippers dance on poles.

To smart.


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Posted By: Maddog44
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 1:17am
Hi.
I was wondering if you have ever posted your different stamps of the chargers you have. My name is Paul (Maddog44) I have a list of manufacturers but it is not yet complete only a couple missing. But have many listed. If you are interested do not hesitate to let me know.
Cheers.

Paul.


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Posted By: Enfield trader
Date Posted: August 24 2025 at 4:55pm
I just pulled them out finally and have them sorted by maker 

See the post here 

http://www.enfield-rifles.com/mkii-mkii-chargers_topic14122.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.enfield-rifles.com/mkii-mkii-chargers_topic14122.html



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