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Nearly Bought an Smle

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Topic: Nearly Bought an Smle
Posted By: shiloh
Subject: Nearly Bought an Smle
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 5:39am
Been toying with the idea of buying and restoring a late `30`s -early `40`s No1. I found a 1943 for $350 sported but will need everything. So basically a barreled action and butt plate. All the wood is badly knackered.
I`m not sure it can be done anymore at today`s parts cost. Well here in Canada anyway.



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Posted By: KRRC1984
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 5:49am
Not trying to rub it in but I’ve just bought a 1944 No5, in prestige condition for £775, here in the Uk. 

But spare for all Enfield are on the rise even here. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 6:49am
How much of the forearm is left? Liberty firearms used to sell ten inch for arm sections.

Finding good wood can be hard.

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Posted By: KRRC1984
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 7:01am
I’d have to get s tape measure on it, but it hasn’t been messed with so it should be normal length 


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 7:37am
 Almost no business in the states will ship gun parts to Canada. That`s the biggest issue.

 When and if you find parts here in Canada you get raped. The other day I got a screw for one of my enfields a single screw, that set me back $25. Why because I needed it and the vendors know how to play economics. 
It`s no longer relaxing beneficial hobby, its big business. There seems to be no more pay it forward, but rather, find the unawares and kick `em squarely in nutz. Ouch  


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 7:46am
Originally posted by KRRC1984 KRRC1984 wrote:

Not trying to rub it in but I’ve just bought a 1944 No5, in prestige condition for £775, here in the Uk. 

But spare for all Enfield are on the rise even here. 


Thats like $13-1400 in Canadian dollars, a little on the high side for a really really nice one here.
But they are slowly going up again. They peeked here a couple years ago, then they were everywhere, people trying to cash in. But that`s slowed down some now.
Average is around $900-$1200, auction houses fetch higher prices because people are desperate and stupid using those venues.

Post some pictures of your junggly carbine, you`re supposed to share the joy with everyone hereWink


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 9:16am
...and to think, I only paid $250 CDN for mine. (& I got the story from the guy that carried it in the Maw Maw.)

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 10:01am
I obtained one in 1968 for $200.00 CND in St John. No paperwork. Was my first Enfield, still have it.

It was a small show and went with my Uncle Morris. He played for half.


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 10:17am
I tried to sell a stock set to a member in Canada a few years ago Customs seized and destroyed it stopping "Arms Trafficing" was the excuse

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Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 10:35am
Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

I obtained one in 1968 for $200.00 CND in St John. No paperwork. Was my first Enfield, still have it.

It was a small show and went with my Uncle Morris. He played for half.

Paddy, don’t you mean $20.00 CDN? That would be about right for 1968. 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 10:39am
You are correct!

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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 11:04am
The one and only No5 I`ve had, I bought s few yrs back, paid $250. It`s a Faz built, 08/44 all matching.
Since then I`ve used it as a test bed for trying to tame its voracious recoil.
I succeeded and it now sports an M14/A1 flash hider/muzzle break and a No4 butt stock with an adjustable recoil dampening butt plate like those used on clay guns. Oh and for shyts and giggles modified the right rear receiver to mount a No4T scope mount.
She`s now an absolute pussy cat to shoot, even with full load 180gr bullets. Accuracy is way up with the scope. Fun gun and looks way cool, gets a lot of looks and Q`s at the range.
I know, why destroy a perfectly good rifle? So I can shoot it and enjoy it. I can always get another if I want one for display I guess. But at today`s prices, that probably won`t happen.


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 11:49am
Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:


I succeeded and it now sports an M14/A1 flash hider/muzzle break and a No4 butt stock with an adjustable recoil dampening butt plate like those used on clay guns. Oh and for shyts and giggles modified the right rear receiver to mount a No4T scope mount.

Can you post a photo of the rifle? How does it shoot? 



Posted By: KRRC1984
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 12:17pm
It sounds like you have more restrictions on transporting weapon parts than the Uk. Just the silly , no semi auto over .22lr. 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 1:10pm
Its "international" from  the US to Canada or vice versa. Its an import/export thing. & yes it is nukking futz!Embarrassed

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 1:14pm
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Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Originally posted by shiloh shiloh wrote:


I succeeded and it now sports an M14/A1 flash hider/muzzle break and a No4 butt stock with an adjustable recoil dampening butt plate like those used on clay guns. Oh and for shyts and giggles modified the right rear receiver to mount a No4T scope mount.

Can you post a photo of the rifle? How does it shoot? 


I made the cheek riser from a chunk of a sported No4 forestock(beech I believe), Looks just like an original. The scopes an old weaver with German #1 reticle(fine pointed post with a very fine xhair)
I`m able to put 10 shots in the 8-10 rings of an SR(reduced for 100yrds) target at 100yrds. Good enough for ground hog work, perfect for deer, coyote etc.







Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 4:37pm
Very nice!

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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 4:48pm
Thanx, it was a fun project, and before this I struggled to take more than 5 shots of Mk7 rounds with it. Painful thump to my bony shoulder.
I reckoned that the coned shaped flash hider was pretty much a rocket nozzle amplifing the recoil. Not much recoil now the way its set up now.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 6:45pm
Nice sporterisation. I like it.

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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 1:14am
Originally posted by SW28fan SW28fan wrote:

I tried to sell a stock set to a member in Canada a few years ago Customs seized and destroyed it stopping "Arms Trafficing" was the excuse

It's not just our ITAR that has chilled international shipping.  I bought a PH5A from an ebay seller located in OZ and after not receiving the sight I requested and received a refund after 3 months had passed only to receive the sight an additional 3 months later covered in all sorts of export and import stamps.  I contacted the seller to pay him again and he requested that I contact another buyer in San Antonio and give the money to him as a refund for a barrel that had disappeared somewhere between OZ and the U.S.  It's no surprise that many businesses refuse to sell internationally since it's not worth the hassle.  I have bought and sold a lot of militaria on ebay over the years and I always do two things: charge for insurance and won't be held liable for items that disappear.  If the buyer/seller doesn't agree, then no sale.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 3:22am
Shipping now a days is sketchy at best and way over priced, esp with ebay. I buy Zero off ebay any more just because of that.
I`d have to say most money made on ebay is from their biggest scam, shipping.
The only place in Canada you can buy from the States and watch the tracking move south from the boarder before being passed to a 100 different logistic organizations before ever reaching it destination. A total joke. And probably the main reason why stuff goes missing. Too many hands in the pot.
I`ll admit I did buy an aperture sight from ebay UK recently only because it was affordable and shipping was reasonable. The issue I have now is it arrived in the USA first, WTF, the Address is for Canada. See what I mean. That was January 29th, still havn`t received it. And the tracking for its original number hasn`t moved since the 5th. Now I figure if it goes through US customs and is deemed to disqualify under itar, I`ve lost it. And then have to apply for a refund.. just a royal pain.
Very frustrating to say the least. Time will tell I guess.




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