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Topic: Game on Gents
Posted By: shiloh
Subject: Game on Gents
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 4:43am
Tariff wars about to begin. All I can say is good luck All.



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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 4:47am
Already forced to close my business (effective 28 Feb.)
Get a flippin helmet & keep yer head dry!

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 7:10am
Be safe


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 2:40pm
Doug Ford is threatening to stop exports of electrical energy to the states.  I wonder how he plans to make up the billions of dollars lost in those exports.  Maybe sell Crack?  He's also threatened to cancel the contract with Starlink which would have provided much needed fast internet and communications in remote parts of Ontario. In retaliation, Turdeau has announced retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods like beer, wine, bourbon, household appliances, furniture, and plastics.  I guess we'll soon see which country can do without the other country's exports best.....hopefully the substitute drama teacher's Border Czar is serious about stopping illegal immigration and drugs and not just there for show.



Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 3:01pm
Dosnt matter how, its all about why.
And really what would you expect us to do, roll over and suck his C**K
Trumps an ass whole. And believe me when I say this won`t end well.
Further more as an ex Canadian I`d hope you`d be more understanding instead of making inflammatory remarks, "Maybe sell Crack?", really! Actually everything you say about this situation is inflammatory, so just stop. Your gullible and believe everything your leader tells you, even though deep down you probably know its not true. Thats true patriotism, USA style.
Its easy to see you have whole-heatedly bought all of Trumps lies. Sure he may be cleaning house at home, but his foreign policies are meant to harm other nations, who does that. An ass whole that`s who.


Posted By: shiloh
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 3:16pm
"I guess we'll soon see which country can do without the other country's exports best.....


Oil, gas, electricity, water, minerals, metal, strategic materials, we have it all and you guys need it. I guess we`ll see. At our current consumption we`ve got maybe a hundred yrs of oil reserves, you don`t, and on and on and on....
Then I figure the good ole USofA will do what it always does best, invade and take over. 
Good luck if he succeeds I will always be Canadian, never a gullible American.



Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 04 2025 at 5:52pm
Wow. Love him or hate him, Trump is doing what is best for American tax paying citizens... I say, Bravo! Wish we had him up here in Canada. And good news on that front! The latest polls (not that I trust any poll) has our Conservatives back at a double digit lead over the commies! As far as who would win a trade war between us and the US? It wouldn't even last a month... Sure we have everything mentioned, but we won't and can't utilize it so it's worthless. Can't mine, can't build pipelines, can't build nuclear reactors, can build more hydroelectric dams... Why? Trudeau and his comrades. Nobody will invest in Canada. Why would they?


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 4:37am
Here are a few observations:

No one can argue that President Trump's #1 priority is the peace and prosperity of American citizens.  I'm not sure what Trudeau's priorities are but it appears that increasing his stature among the world's progressive elites and globalists is his #1 priority.

A recent CBC poll found 79% of Canadians viewed President Trump unfavourably.  That's understandable.  The same poll found the same percentage of Canadians viewed Elon Musk unfavourably.  That doesn't make a lick of sense because nothing Musk and DOGE is doing affects Canada in any way and you'd think someone who is cutting a bloated bureaucracy down to size would be viewed favourably, at least by the portion of Canadians that vote Conservative.

B.C. Premiere David Eby responded to the tariffs by removing liquor from "Republican" states from his province's liquor stores' shelves but will continue to sell from "Democrat" states.  That move is very telling and suggests that this less a U.S. - Canada tiff than it is a Left - Right tiff.  

Speaking of Left - Right comparisons it is very interesting to compare my old Leftist home - B.C. to my new Right wing home - Texas.  B.C.'s 2024 budget suffered a $9.1 Billion cad deficit and has forecast a 2025 budget deficit of $10.9 Billion cad.  Texas enjoyed a $32.7 Billion usd surplus in 2024 and has projected a $24 Billion usd surplus for 2025.  We're awash in money and last year Texas Governor Greg Abbott reduced property taxes by 40%.  Who in their right mind would vote against such good stewardship of the taxpayer's money?  Our sincere hope is that Trump will bring the same fiscally responsible attitude to our Federal government which is badly in need of change and thinning.  Please don't condemn individual Americans who quite reasonably vote their pocketbook.  


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 8:29am
A poll from CBC... no wonder you read those numbers. CBC may be more woke and corrupt than CNN and MSNBC combined! I can assure you that in my neck of the woods, and I suspect I'm many others, that while some Canadians don't like Trump (see him as a bully. I like him but then again, my favourite bird is a blue jay. Now that's a bird bully!) they absolutely LOVE what he is doing for your country! I am one of them. And I truly hope that Canada wakes up and brings in a Conservative government to pull our country out of the flames of ruin. I think it will.


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 8:47am
God bless Canada!


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 12:01pm
Obviously viewed from the other side of the pond. I think Trump is a good thing for the American people, especially the working class. Draining the swamp of corruption and getting rid of unwanted, undocumented criminals, getting rid of the Woke agenda is a great start! 
However I think his foreign policy could do with a bit more work, a bit more indepth knowledge of history and situations. 
Expecting to evict 2 million Palestinians from Gaza to make it a resort is just foolish. He may have said it as a joke, but it's unrealistic.  
Regarding the argument with Zelensky, I think it was a deliberate TV move to undermine Ukraine. These type of negotiations should not be part of TV entertainment, it should in private. Also,  you need to remember that Zelensky is not "mother tongue"English. So when in an conversation with Trump and Vance, he may come across as impolite or rude. It's not easy to argue convincingly in a second language. I know because I have lived in France for 30 years, but even though I am fluent, it can be difficult to find the  correct weight of expression and balance when in difficult fast moving conversations.
JD Vance's dig at freedom of speech in Europe was quite funny,  because you only have to read "Charlie Hebdo" to see how free it can be! We do have some issues with minorities trying to damage our freedom of speech, but that seems to be a global problem!


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 12:57pm
Interesting comments  from a European perspective. My grandparents came from Ukraine, so I'm kind of biased in this. I do think Trumps big picture in regards to this conflict is to absolutely have NATO (including my Canada) to step up their defence spending. As far as the Palestine issue, I mentioned before that there has to be a reason why other neighbouring countries won't let them in. Until Hamas is dead and it's backing from other countries ends, there is no peace. That won't happen. Maybe that's just the way it is with that piece of territory...


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 3:41am
Of course everyone wants Ukraine to prevail over Russia and kick the invaders out but it's getting to the point where we have to ask three very difficult questions? Can Ukraine win a war of attrition with the much more populous Russia? What would the cost be to Ukraine to not negotiate a ceasefire and continue fighting? Are we risking WWIII if the war continues? So far President Trump is the only one with the courage and foresight to publicly ask these questions. The answer to the first question is 'no'. Ukraine only has 1/5 the population of Russia and is already entering a recruitment crisis as low morale, desertion, and draft dodging are becoming a problem. The cost to Ukraine? A dreadful debate is taking place in Ukraine. The question revolves around whether to mobilize – and risk serious casualties to – the 18-25 age group. Due to economic pressures in the early 2000s, Ukraine suffered a major drop in its birth rate, leaving relatively few people now aged between 15 and 25. Mobilization and serious attrition of this group may be something Ukraine simply can’t afford, given the already serious demographic crisis the country faces. The answer to the 3rd question is, of course a resounding 'YES'! Putin is a megalomaniac and the consensus of opinion is that if the war should turn badly against Russia he would go nuclear in more ways than one. Are we willing to see the capitol cities of the EU turned into smoldering sl*g heaps just so we can feel good about supporting Ukraine?  Harsh comments, to be sure but ones that need to be addressed before long.


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 10:23am
It's good to see Trump standing by his promise to get peace; and he obviously needs to deal with Putin in a straightforward manner. But he needs to be aware that Putin has broken previous agreements and ceasefires with Ukraine. A point the Zelensky was trying to get across in the Oval office. 
Ukraine will obviously have to give up some land, which is unfortunate but necessary to end the conflict.
But Trump seems to be a bit more pro Putin than expected and the Oval office incident has weakend the hand of the Ukrainians. Which is going to make the situation worse for them and possibly for Europe, if Putin decides to continue his expansion policies.
Potentially difficult times ahead.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 10:38am
Let us hope for good things.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 10:43am
There is no doubt in my mind that Putin will not stop with the small territorial gains of Ukraine. Then it truly will become a European problem. This is what I see as Trump trying to do. Motivate Europe to step up and step in. Surely there can be "boots on the ground" from friendly neighbours that doesn't involve a NATO action? I realize Ukraine is not in the EU, but are a candidate. In my mind, Europe should have deployed combat troops and assets as a non NATO force once they had called Putin's nuclear bluff. It's still not to late and the good weather is coming. Again, I don't live in Europe so there is probably more to this conflict than I understand. I do know enough aboot history that if you appease a dictator to assume "peace", peace is never acheived.


Posted By: DisasterDog
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 11:09am
Part of the problem is some European countries funding both sides of the conflict.  More money is spent on importing resources from Russia than is spent on Ukraine defense.  Europe needs to figure out their true priorities.


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 2:10pm
All I know is that I'm not interested in my nephew (USMC) or my friend's daughter (US Navy) or another friend's son (USAF) fighting and dying for Ukraine.  It's high time Europe sorted out their own problems.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 3:36pm
im with sapper here , i do think however that trump has a plan - it is dedicated to peace and thats the end goal in all this diplomacy - mostly we never see it played out but this is the most transparent government administration we have ever had - he says what he is going to do , does it , and doesnt hide it with other BS , 

i see he has set back the tarrifs on both mexico and canada , my guess is the threat and imminent implementation has inspired some conversations regarding what he wants done , i think they would go away if there was movement on his requests , i do think canada is in an awkward situation as tru-do is a lame duck and his past policy leads me to believe he would compromise canadas standing so the next leader has issues to deal with - sooner he is gone the better , 

as to mexico i fully expect there may be gunships over cartel compounds with our support soon , now that they are terrorists [they always have been] the gauntlet has finaly been thrown , i would not want to be them , if i were id be getting out of dodge 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: March 07 2025 at 4:23am
The most effective way to stop the drug trade, is for people to stop taking the stuff. If there's no market, there's no trade!  But unfortunately there are far too many morons who think it's cool and end up hooked.
So blowing up the cartels has to be the next best thing. Followed by better education for kid's. 


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 07 2025 at 12:51pm
amen zed , you are spot on , we need to educate kids about the drug disease it will ruin their lives and kill them young , shutting off the flow of illegal drugs cant hurt either tho 


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 08 2025 at 12:01am
Despite all protestations to the contrary by the part-time substitute drama teacher a significant amount of drugs ARE being trans-shipped through Vancouver, B.C. and money laundering as well.  

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cullen-commission-money-laundering-bc-tuesday-1.5585890" rel="nofollow - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cullen-commission-money-laundering-bc-tuesday-1.5585890

https://globalnews.ca/news/4149818/vancouver-cautionary-tale-money-laundering-drugs/" rel="nofollow - https://globalnews.ca/news/4149818/vancouver-cautionary-tale-money-laundering-drugs/




Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 08 2025 at 9:08pm
that is well known or trump would not be threatening the tariffs - unless od course canada has tariffs on us that is - he said it will be reciprocal - whatever you do / we do , level playing field , the other depends on actions to stop what we both know is occurring 


Posted By: DisasterDog
Date Posted: March 08 2025 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by Sapper740 Sapper740 wrote:

Despite all protestations to the contrary by the part-time substitute drama teacher a significant amount of drugs ARE being trans-shipped through Vancouver, B.C. and money laundering as well.  

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cullen-commission-money-laundering-bc-tuesday-1.5585890" rel="nofollow - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cullen-commission-money-laundering-bc-tuesday-1.5585890

https://globalnews.ca/news/4149818/vancouver-cautionary-tale-money-laundering-drugs/" rel="nofollow - https://globalnews.ca/news/4149818/vancouver-cautionary-tale-money-laundering-drugs/



It’s a much easier border to sneak drugs across.  The small amount of Fentanyl seized at the US/Canadian border was used to mock the President’s call for increased security.  But how much was stopped is not necessarily proportional to the overall throughput.  


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 4:31am
According to data released by both CBSA & USBS less than 1% of all fentynl siezed came through Canadian borders.
As well, USBS notes that much of the fentynl smuggled is done by U.S.citizens because they have a tendency to be less crutinized.
There is a fentynl problem in Canada...it's coming INTO Canada, not going south.
As well, most of the illegal immigration seems to be coming TO Canada, not the other way around.
Another issue, the U.S. refuses to act on is the illegal firearms being smuggled into Canada from U.S. Thanks to this our crime rates have soared & our sorry-ass gov't figgers it's best to take all the firearms away from the vetted, licenced, responsible firearm owners.

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 9:19am
I think we can all agree that our common border is an issue that was allowed to become a weak link for illegal smuggling of all types due to the Obama/Biden and Trudeau governments. You can agree or disagree on how Trump is trying to fix it, but why Canada didn't deploy our military to patrol our borders when tariffs were first threatened is beyond me. It's better to do something preventitive rather than just a token response like assigning a Canadian Border Czar and having the RCMP keep a close eye on the border.  I have yet to hear him speak. 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 9:23am
I'm with ya on that one, HT!
Folks here been sayin fer years that somethin more substantial should be done with our border security, without jepordizing the free flow we always had. But the Cdn gov't prefers to be stupid when it comes to spending $$ appropiatly.

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 10:30am
I remember going to Canada on the train going to Monckton With my Brother in the 60's

One of my Uncles picked us up and took us to my Grandparents house.

Customs was nothing.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 11:39am
I remember being in Buffalo IIRC for work a bunch of us "went out for dinner" one night. No-one thought to ask me if I had my passport with me because we went to a restaurant in In Niagara Falls, (Canadian side)Confused
We weren't even stopped going INTO Canada.
Coming back into the US we were stopped. I just waved my green Card & in we went.



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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 11:45am
When I was in Canada my Uncle would write our names on a index card and drop it off at the Post Office to tell the government who we where / where we where staying.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 11:53am
I was never asked!
That was a thing in France back in the day you registered at your hotel for starting & ending a stay. The cards were collected (& returned) every day, I always felt sorry for the Motard who collected & delivered mine every 24 hours as I was traveling for work & only did overnight stops.
Star


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 1:38pm
Us Canucks didn't need passports for entry into U.S until post 9/11. Prior to that, we / I would think nothing of going toThe Press Box (N.falls N.Y.) for dinner maybe 3 -4 nights per week. Sometimes in the afternoon for a few bevies.
U.S. border gaurds all knew who you were before you were even asked(IF you were asked). Now, they aren't like that. The USBS people have NO sense of humour. They get moved around ALOT, so they aint happy as well.
I wish we had the old days back...but unfortunatley, we'll NEVER see that again.
The relationship twixt Can & US will NEVER be the same after this.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 1:41pm
Let us hope for good things.


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 2:15pm
I tend to think that the Canadian/USA relationship will be fine. If Canada can replace the woke, sick current government with a common sense one, then I think great things can happen. If we don't, then we are doomed financially and morally...


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 3:01pm
I am hoping for great things.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 3:38pm
so i think i heard you have a new fearless leader ? any thoughts on that ? 

or was it that the labor party just selected their candidate for replacement of tru-do ? 


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 4:16pm
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/09/canada-liberal-party-leader-election-mark-carney-trudeau" rel="nofollow - https://www.axios.com/2025/03/09/canada-liberal-party-leader-election-mark-carney-trudeau

I hope it is true!


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: March 09 2025 at 5:06pm
Anyone familiar with Langley, B.C. knows of 0 Avenue (zero avenue) where you can drive from Surrey, B.C. to Abbottsford with the U.S. border a scant 6 feet south of you.  No fence, no barricades, just a shallow depression in the median between the two countries.  Back when I was living in the area there appeared to be no surveillance of the border at all, either direct or electronic.  Where I used to hunt in M.U. 4-01 I once, while following a game trail, stumbled upon the clear cut at the border.  As far as you could look to the west and east was the perfectly straight line of the border even though we were in one of the remotest corners of B.C.  How you patrol and control that border, I have no idea.


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 9:41am
Trump is spot on about GAZA. The arab/muslim people therein have been indoctrinated to hate  - there is no middle ground for their hate that their indoc has or will allow.  So much US capitol has been fraudulently abused by the gazan "leaders" via USAID and other nefarious NGO's to include UNWRA ETC ETC THAT THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE THERE WITH THEIR ALL OR NOTHING MINDSET.
      Ukraine has been a boondoggle since obammy. He allowed putin to annex Crimea. Under Trump 1 PUTIN DID NOTHING. Under the puppet briben his regime felt the need to cover up their money laundering in Ukraine. With cogs like Victoria Nuland drooling at the bit for a hot war in Ukraine , the globalists wanting it as well .  I watched senile joey get asked as russia built up in 2022 what he would do if russia attacked Ukraine..his fetid response was "depends on how much he takes". Just like FDR this puppet new that putin was going to march like the japanese did with pearl harbor. The global cabal wanted this hot war and joey was just the puppet to make it complete. DOGE has exposed the utter corruption of monies diverted to Ukraine via USAID and other agencies. And zelensky himself has said he did not get but half that amount...where did all that cash go ?. The woman in charge of USIAD from 2021 until Trump got back in office entered USAID with assets under $3 million. She left with more than $30 mil after three years...absolute corruption. 
     This war was totally avoidable. Remember under reagan Nato agreed not an inch eastward. Well that is a lie people like putin never forgot. All this talk before 2022 of ukraine joining NATO and briben more or less encouraging this  - they knew putin would op a gasket on this further betrayal by the west. Ukraine is a mess and militarily never had a chance against russia - putin has shown he is willing to grind even his own people into sausage to get his point across.... the west is not, never was in fact. 
      JD vanced absolutely nailed it on how europe is becoming less free. With so much of europe enacting "hate speech" laws with the definition controlled by those in power - literally locking up citizens in germany and UK for criticism of the govt schemes and deplorable state of immigration therein. Banning the AFD and limiting freedoms of afd members SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICAL OPPO. That is very orewllian doings in europa. Even criticizing covid shots will get you in the klink there.... when your opinions are deemed enemies of the state and your speech decalred "hate speech" you will be fined , jailed and freedoms restricted , that's not freedom. 


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 9:48am
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

I tend to think that the Canadian/USA relationship will be fine. If Canada can replace the woke, sick current government with a common sense one, then I think great things can happen. If we don't, then we are doomed financially and morally...

I do too.  Carney was more or less appointed like kumswallah was when senile joey had to exit. you know canada has some serious issues when even great men like Jordan Peterson leaves to immigrate to the states. Jordan clearly wanted to stay Canadian but the woke and oppressive canadian govt gave him no choice to leave or continue to be stepped on by an oppressive govt. 
    I recently read  how Rebel news exposed how the canadian govt fined Amish people of Canada every time they came back into canada $6k each for not showing a govt vaccine chart - the Amish dont do that silliness. So in the back rooms the canadain govt used courts to adjudge fines that became liens on their properties via kanagroo courts that the Defendents were never made aware of until they tried to use their properties as collateral for loans on cattle etc and found out the canadian regime wanted it's pound of flesh yet still. 


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 9:59am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

According to data released by both CBSA & USBS less than 1% of all fentynl siezed came through Canadian borders.
As well, USBS notes that much of the fentynl smuggled is done by U.S.citizens because they have a tendency to be less crutinized.
There is a fentynl problem in Canada...it's coming INTO Canada, not going south.
As well, most of the illegal immigration seems to be coming TO Canada, not the other way around.
Another issue, the U.S. refuses to act on is the illegal firearms being smuggled into Canada from U.S. Thanks to this our crime rates have soared & our sorry-ass gov't figgers it's best to take all the firearms away from the vetted, licensed, responsible firearm owners.

It is not guns causing crime. It's the people wanting them intent on using them for crime that has increased and thus increasing crime. Immigration from third world areas has not helped citizenry of either Canada nor America. So little vetting , so many allowed across the border it defied logic. Under Trump that flow has stopped. Under the D brand party it was business as usual to even supplying SS numbers to these recent waves of illegals under briben. 
    The Canadian govt would have you believe it's guns that are the problem , hence it's authoritarian stance on ever more gun confiscation - dont buy into that bunk. It's an easy talking point for them to push like the apparatchiks did to the UK & Australia and are doing in Germany. Places liek Sweden  - traditionally super low on crime , and lower on gun crime ( because up until recently it had a homogenous society) has now seen epidemics like "grenade crime" as islamic types seek grenades to settle debts & spats. Illegal arms & explosives supplied to Ukraine turned up in Germany several times in the past few years. Dont buy into the gun control points of big brother - it's all bunk !. 


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 10:06am
On Tariffs -= Trump is predictably yet again spot on. America has lost so much manufacturing due to importing so much cheap items  - the foreign tariffs against US manufactured goods have been successful in destroying alot of American exports that used to be massive. The like Tariffs put in place by Trump will make governments either drop their tariffs or lose American business. China alone can not afford to lose it's biggest customer - Fact. But the game the chinese play is absolutely pure protectionist. Their economy is so govt financed and controlled - designed to manufacture and way more than their people can consume or afford to consume it's a house of cards that tariffs can collapse. 
 Scott Bessent US secretary of the Treasury has done a couple interviews - all of them eye opening. He just did one with Tucker Carlson - worth the watch even if you only want him to explain the US posiiton on Tariffs alone. 


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 1:41pm
I did watch that. Very interesting. I hope Americans can wait this oot and see true lasting results. We, in Canada, have no plan as our current PM vowed not to "Drill baby, drill..." So that pretty much will cement us in being a Third World State. 


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

Interesting comments  from a European perspective. My grandparents came from Ukraine, so I'm kind of biased in this. I do think Trumps big picture in regards to this conflict is to absolutely have NATO (including my Canada) to step up their defence spending. As far as the Palestine issue, I mentioned before that there has to be a reason why other neighboring countries won't let them in. Until Hamas is dead and it's backing from other countries ends, there is no peace. That won't happen. Maybe that's just the way it is with that piece of territory...

Every "local" arab country that allowed "palestinians" to thrive within their borders regretted it...they even tried to overthrow Jordan. Their reputation in the arab world is dirt. They are used as pawns against the jews by other sunni and even shia states. It's just the vile "teachings" of islam stopping peace. It's always all or nothing with their mindset of indoctrinated hate. 

On Ukraine - it has the reputation for being the most corrupt country in Europe. There is a solid reasons for that. Certain western politicos have been laundering cash through Ukraine for some time to include briben , his boy manchild and the whole briben clan. This war the globalists wanted and easily baited putin into is a distraction to their crimes and he!! , allows them to launder yet more cash !. Without some real "wunderwaffe" Ukraine never had a chance in this fight they were sadly and literally fed into. 


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 6:08pm
We're going to have to put up with a little short term pain to realize long term gain in the United States, I just hope few people fall for the chicken little predictions by the Dems and their boot lickers in the mainstream media.  Just about every country in the world has put tariffs on American goods so good on President Trump for finally giving them a taste of their own medicine.  Further, the Trump administration isn't going to let other countries fudge around and delay his programs.  Today, Secretary of State Rubio cancelled all visas issued to South Sudanese and will not issue any more visas until South Sudan agrees to take back their citizens that have been deported from the U.S.  There is a common saying most veterans know, "Lead, Follow, or get the F&%* out of the way!"  That is the Trump administration's motto and all the dithering world leaders are now FAFO.


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 05 2025 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by Sapper740 Sapper740 wrote:

We're going to have to put up with a little short term pain to realize long term gain in the United States, I just hope few people fall for the chicken little predictions by the Dems and their boot lickers in the mainstream media.  Just about every country in the world has put tariffs on American goods so good on President Trump for finally giving them a taste of their own medicine.  Further, the Trump administration isn't going to let other countries fudge around and delay his programs.  Today, Secretary of State Rubio cancelled all visas issued to South Sudanese and will not issue any more visas until South Sudan agrees to take back their citizens that have been deported from the U.S.  There is a common saying most veterans know, "Lead, Follow, or get the F&%* out of the way!"  That is the Trump administration's motto and all the dithering world leaders are now FAFO.

Totally agree. The business as usual in DC is over...the apparatchiks in the shadows fight this change and daylight as they are so used to getting their way and their filthy lucre. The media has always been a leftist bent agitprop for the D brand cult. Now so much more out in the open  - they cant help themselves now. Trump flipping the script on the DC press gang really rankled their greasy feathers !. The media is apoplectic seeing how Trump is letting actual mainstream real media into the daily pressers . The big lame stream biased media cant control the narrative 100% anymore and it just galls their thin skins. They never once threw shade on the disastrous economic policies of the puppet briben regime. And all they do now is bark sky is falling tales of economic woe like the good little marionettes of the left they are. These changes take time to bear fruit , and all they wanted was time to keep pushing the left's Keynesian garbage models ad nauseum , but now demand results like yesterday. their hypocrisy is grand and legion.  


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 06 2025 at 1:22pm
I see the new Canadian PM announced that the relationship with The USA is now OVER, including defense pacts.
I'm kind of curious how he thinks that's going to end well for Canada?


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 06 2025 at 1:29pm
Shamu. Easy answer. He is an idiot!! He also said Canada was the most European non-European country in the world. Obviously gonna hitch his wagon to some kind of mutual trade/defence deal with them. He also mentioned using a European fighter jets to replace our old Hornets... and backing oot of the F35 deal... 


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 06 2025 at 1:35pm
IMHO, the F-35 was a bad choice, anyway. I would much have peferred the SAAB entry..but the agreement was (since the Arrow's demise) that all tactical airforce requirements be purchased stateside.
The Arrow was (laughingly) replaced with BOMARC..then the Voodoos were equipped with GENIE a to A nuclear tipped missles.(What good would that do?)
Seems like alot of "stinkin - thinkin" in Canadian military procurement since then Arrow was killed.

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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 5:32am
Canada's Defence procurement policy is to buy whatever system they can get a deal on, then hem and haw for a few years, back out of the contract at great expense by having to pay a penalty, then buy something inferior to what our servicemen and women need.  That guarantees the Canadian taxpayer pays more for less.  Anyone remember the $500,000,000 penalty Canada had to pay when PM Jean Cretin cancelled the contract to purchase 50 EH-101 helicopters, then the Liberals dithered for a decade while the Canadian Navy tried valiantly and at great additional expense to keep the Sea Kings flying?  Now look at the pathetic submarine fleet Canada has spent a small fortune on: the Victoria Class of diesel electric submarines.  Canada paid $427,000,002 for 4 outdated and poorly maintained Upholder Class subs from Great Britain, then had to spend another $98,000,000 just to get them where they were almost safe enough to submerge.  Canada has now spent a Billion dollars on these turkeys.  Leaks and substandard welds have been an ongoing problem with these subs as well as frying electrical systems.  The 4 subs total time at sea amounts to months instead of the years it should be.  
So once again Canada has a new PM that wants to cancel yet another defence procurement contract, this time the F35 which is arguably one of the best 5th gen fighters out there.  Why?  He hates Trump.  That's some sound logic there.  


Posted By: bubba ho tep
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 8:45am
Originally posted by Sapper740 Sapper740 wrote:

Canada's Defence procurement policy is to buy whatever system they can get a deal on, then hem and haw for a few years, back out of the contract at great expense by having to pay a penalty, then buy something inferior to what our servicemen and women need.  That guarantees the Canadian taxpayer pays more for less.  Anyone remember the $500,000,000 penalty Canada had to pay when PM Jean Cretin cancelled the contract to purchase 50 EH-101 helicopters, then the Liberals dithered for a decade while the Canadian Navy tried valiantly and at great additional expense to keep the Sea Kings flying?  Now look at the pathetic submarine fleet Canada has spent a small fortune on: the Victoria Class of diesel electric submarines.  Canada paid $427,000,002 for 4 outdated and poorly maintained Upholder Class subs from Great Britain, then had to spend another $98,000,000 just to get them where they were almost safe enough to submerge.  Canada has now spent a Billion dollars on these turkeys.  Leaks and substandard welds have been an ongoing problem with these subs as well as frying electrical systems.  The 4 subs total time at sea amounts to months instead of the years it should be.  
So once again Canada has a new PM that wants to cancel yet another defense procurement contract, this time the F35 which is arguably one of the best 5th gen fighters out there.  Why?  He hates Trump.  That's some sound logic there.  

I find it telling that Carney had a meeting with Chairman XI right before he took the catbird seat in canadian govt. I do not get the impression he is "canada first" at all. It almost seems as though he sold out to china much the way the briben klan did in/to America. We see now Vietnam , and the EU are offering up zero tariff concessions..... is Carney going to be the hold out carnival barking madman on this ?. 


Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 8:54am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

IMHO, the F-35 was a bad choice, anyway.

The problem is Hoadie is if we want our aerial warfighters to have the greatest chance of survival in today's environment we should want them to have the latest and greatest which is a 5th Gen fighter aircraft and since there are only three countries currently producing 5th Gen fighters our choices are limited.  They now talk of the "Combat Cloud" in which air forces will be operating.  The combat cloud is a mix of unmanned aerial aircraft and manned aircraft.  The F35 electronic systems allow a single F35 pilot to launch AMRAAMS from UCLASS (Unmanned Carrier-launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike) aircraft before a 3rd or 4th Gen fighter even knows they're there.  What an amazing advantage!  Further, consider that several countries are working on 6th Gen fighter aircraft, how far behind do you want the RCAF to be?  


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 9:49am
When Canada bought those screen-door subs..they had already been refused by other countries (including Columbia, IIRC). One of them had an electrical fire enroute resulting in the injury (& death I believe) of some crew members.
SAAB makes a great fighter. Its faster, flies higher & its less expensive. We should have bought them a while ago.(Then again-we still fly old Cessna Tudor jets! )

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Posted By: smerdon42
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 5:14pm
Australia just paid the first payment on the AUKUS deal for subs , wonder if we will be told to go screw soon as well.we recently had 3 Chinese ships circumnavigate the country and sat there and watched . Back here in now back in USof T 



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