What the feck happened!
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Topic: What the feck happened!
Posted By: Zed
Subject: What the feck happened!
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 12:12pm
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So Carney wins the election and Polievre doesn't even keep a seat in the opposition! That's a real shame! I watched a video by the Canadian independent journalist Rebel News. It was explaining how Carney, while head of a billion dollar investment company, became probably the biggest tax avoidance professional in Canada. The company has a house in the Isle of Man, registered as it's head office for tax reasons. He is obviously good at shifting money around via legal loopholes, but totally unethical if you car for your country!
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 1:00pm
There goes Canada.
People need to run south over the border.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 1:13pm
It was the sodomites in Toronto & Quebec that scuttled this election.(Not to mention Trump's verbal crap!!). The fact is..now - as I have said many times on this forum - the breakup of Canada is now a very real scenario. The liberal agenda is not to develop our resources in oil, nat. gas, etc. That means Alta will look out for better weather elswhere.If I was youinger I'd be looking at moving there RIGHT NOW! I'd go with 'em. Amazing to me how short-sighted the"sheep people" of Canada can be. Then again - it's the sodomites, sucking of the social teet that have ruined this!
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 1:59pm
Canada. Oh, Canada!
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 2:19pm
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Take down the flag and turn off the lights
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 6:53pm
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so , i take it its going to be more of the same as usual ?
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 29 2025 at 10:47pm
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https://youtu.be/bgM1FjLUHlg?si=7Q8tzBJ-zncXOTCw%20" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/bgM1FjLUHlg?si=7Q8tzBJ-zncXOTCw
This is the link for Carney's tax avoidance.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 1:21am
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ok , i have a friend that lives on the isle of man , maybe i need to move there - im sure neil would help me get settled there , i dont have billions or even millions but i hate all the taxes im paying ,
if you elected another leftist that will follow in the past footsteps you are screwed , i get it there are too many inner city tytpes that live off the public ...but eventually there wll cxome a time when we have bled off all wer can from the taxpayers , they will die off and those in the cities will starve , in my mind cant happen too soon , the urbanites need to learn what it means to do without , we all know
im watching more of this and im seeing a lot of left leaning programing , yes you are applying tariffs on our products , why should we not reciprocate ? just asking , i think fair trade should be fair - no tariffs at all , i think thats where trump is at , you remove yours we will remove ours ,
interesting that im hearing here that your conservative want to look to canada first - similar to our current status , maybe there is hope for free trade , closed boarders and or open boarders with the mutual understanding we need each other ,
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 4:14am
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Canada's recent election is a good example of the road the U.S. was going down: diluting conservative votes through immigration. America stopped that plan in the nick of time but unfortunately Canada didn't. Consider this: Canada's population grew from 17.9 million in 1960 to 40 million in 2024 but that growth wasn't through Canadians having children, it was through immigration. Just since 2000 Canada has let in over 7 million immigrants which may not sound like much to Americans but for a smaller, population-wise country it is hugely significant. Immigrants for the most part don't bite the hand that feeds them no matter the country they invade.
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 5:20am
Zed wrote:
So Carney wins the election and Polievre doesn't even keep a seat in the opposition! That's a real shame! I watched a video by the Canadian independent journalist Rebel News. It was explaining how Carney, while head of a billion dollar investment company, became probably the biggest tax avoidance professional in Canada. The company has a house in the Isle of Man, registered as it's head office for tax reasons. He is obviously good at shifting money around via legal loopholes, but totally unethical if you car for your country! |
Zed, Liberals and Democrats are great at preaching about people needing to "pay their fair share!", not so great at heeding their own remonstrations though.
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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 10:26am
Sapper, they may not bite the hand that feeds, but they will start setting up their own Sharia law in the cities they live. It's already happening in the UK!
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 3:53pm
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^^^ THIS there are actual (but unofficial) "SHARIA POLICE" units. My reaction is Shariah is Muslim Holy Law. I'm not Muslim. It doesn't apply to me. But many aren't that bold.
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 5:15pm
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He played his cards to early. Several weeks ago, while in Europe, he called Canada the most European country outside of Europe... He has a lot of contacts in Europe from when he was head of the Bank of England. Whispers of trade deals and military procurement with Europe, energy sales to China... if true, what will be the fallout with Trump?
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: April 30 2025 at 9:38pm
Honkytonk wrote:
if true, what will be the fallout with Trump? |
That's the $26,000 question, isn't it Honk? If Carney wants Canada to cozy up to China more than it already has there could be some pretty serious repercussions, especially in regards to defense. The U.S. only sells it's latest and greatest equipment to countries that it trusts to not share our technology with our enemies. It's entirely possible that Carney won't have to back out of the F35 contract, the U.S. may refuse to sell them to Canada. The problems for Canada could go even deeper than that. Currently the RCN only has one oiler, the MV Asterix which with its partially civilian crew is forbidden to go into war zones. Canada's two new oilers, the Protecteur class aren't in service yet so Canadian warships do UNREP with American auxilliary vessels. I could quite easily see President Trump ordering the U.S. Navy to stop replenishing Canadian warships at sea. It was only just recently that Australia purchased 400 of our top of the line AIM 120C an AIM 120D missiles for their aircraft and $7 Billion dollars worth of Standard missiles for their warships. Canadian warships, other than the main deck gun utilize all American designed and manufactured weapons and weapon systems. Unless they want to throw spitballs at the enemy Canada needs to negotiate the trade war with the U.S. very carefully.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 4:26am
The RCN doesn't even have ONE single destroyer in the fleet.(Only old slow frigates). Our Coast Gaurd is not armed (really effective) The "submarines" we have are a joke.(Moreover - a threat to their crews!) The Air Force isn't faring any better than the navy. People forget (conveniently) that it was the Liberals under Trudeau 1st that started all this degradation of the C.A.F. (If Defenbaker - a Conservative - hadn't killed the Arrow, we wouldn't be in this position!)
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 5:35am
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Yup. We are up the creek without a paddle. Cozy up to the woke Europeans or the commies... alienate our closest, powerful ally. Go team Canada
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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 6:46am
Hoadie, time to hang up the Stars and Bars to hope the US INVASION will start
Are you moving South?
You can list my name as a reference.
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 6:54am
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More on Australia: it's refreshing to see a country that understands the need to defend itself from Chinese expansionism. Australia has committed to double its defense spending over the next 9 years so as to provide a credible deterrence to China.
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 7:03am
Honkytonk wrote:
Yup. We are up the creek without a paddle. Cozy up to the woke Europeans or the commies... alienate our closest, powerful ally. Go team Canada |
Suppose the SHTF and the world is at war again. Canada could have all it's spare parts and consumables replaced very quickly from America's vast and secure armament factories next door or Canada could get its equipment via a long, tenuous supply line from northern Europe's vulnerable factories. Hubris should not interfere with a country's security.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 01 2025 at 6:11pm
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it is worth considering , i realize that trump has irritated the canadians with his talk of annexation and reciprocal tariffs , but there is a simple fix , remove their tariffs and trump will remove ours , side with europe and worse yet the chibese and there will be reproduction's from that too , we have been good neighbors in the past ....yes some bumps in the road , thats what we need to remain - its in both ur interest ,
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 3:56am
A Sq: Under the NAFTA / CUSMA agreements (the 2nd round re-negotiated by Trump) pretty much everything was tariff free.(As long as it originated in USA or Mex.) Many other countries did not enjoy "preferred trading" status. The tariffs came about when Trump implimented them. So why would Canada remove their counter-tariffs first? Get Trump to remove his & everything should be good.(Well, not quite everything - we're still saddled with a Liberal "leader" named Carnage Carney. & all the trouble that goes with it!
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 10:03am
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Its a game he plays. Come up with a terrible first offer. Work it till it busts. Now make a slightly less ridiculous second offer. The other party negotiates that down. You accept. The Other party is pleased they got you to do the deal on their terms. You walk away smiling because its 15% more than you actually wanted!
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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 2:23pm
That's right, Shamu....it's called the "Art of the Deal'!
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 2:56pm
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there are and have been canadian tariffs on US goods imported there , i listed some on another thread ,
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 4:47pm
Are you reffering to dairy? Most poultry consumed in Ontario is imported from U.S...as is pork & beef. No tariff there. No tariff on seafood (traded in U.S $ - shoot ourselves in the foot there!) Vegetables aren't tariffed. I'd like to see the list. I may find it educational.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 02 2025 at 8:39pm
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dairy was a part of it as i recall , ill need to look it back up for the complete list , ill try to do that - it was here on this site and think this forum that i listed them ,
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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: May 03 2025 at 10:05am
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Canadians got snookered this past election. Carney has taken the wheel of a sinking ship with know plan to right it except to spend more. We have one way to get out of this but the Liberals would rather let Canada die. Oil and gas. We got it, the world needs it. Actually, my wife and I have started pondering moving the family to Alberta. They'll be an independent entity long before Canada goes down the drain.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 03 2025 at 1:14pm
Wish I had that ability!
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 03 2025 at 6:30pm
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yes lets start with dairy -
butter at 313+% other items as well and some as high as that or just under , peanut butter at 295% chicken cuts at 295% chicken eggs at at 241% turkey cuts at 238% barley at 04..5% beef at 25.5% wheat seed at 41% wheat products at 78.5% sugar at 265%
those are outrageous and there is a long list , trump is simply saying fair trade is fair , get rid of your tariffs we drom purs , the playing field has not been levcel for a long time if ever , he wants it to be fair and i dont think he is out of line ,
BTW , im no farmer and i have no dog in that fight but i cannot see anything wrong with trumps thinking on fair trade
i get the protective nature of your government for certain sectors - ours [here in this state] do the same but our taxes subsidize that , not tariffs , i think itsa wrong and i object but ive not movesd so i pay those taxes so far , that may change soon ,
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 04 2025 at 5:09am
Geez A Sq: That was a posting from:PuckDaddy (Joe Anidar) on his posting of 06 March 2025.(From what I could find)
You should have looked a little deeper for your own satisfaction.
Everything he stated on that list - as well as Aluminum & a few other things - were NOT tariffed by Canada, & were actually catagorized as tariff free by CBSA under the MFN (Most Favoured Nation) designation.
As well, the 2nd round of NAFTA / CUSMA was negotiated by Trump. It was HE that disctated what "tariffs" would be applied to dairy products.
" Those tariffs only kick in after the U.S. surpasses the quantity it's permitted to sell in Canada tariff free - a number negotiated by the Trump administration in 2018 as part of CUSMA." " Unless or until you meet that threshold you do not pay" The U.S. has never reached the quota, which the U.S.dairy industry acknowledged earlier this month." During the negotiation of CUSMA, Canada agreed to increase over time the quota of U.S. products that can enter the market tariff free. What really drew my suspicion is that the majority of chicken sold here originates in USA.(There are processing differences that are applied ie: temperature of water during processing etc.) I worked for a poultry company and we had a "quota" for US chicken. As well, for the last 15 years I was importing food/spice products from the southern US for my own business. One has to be careful about the mis-information spread around the internet.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 04 2025 at 5:27pm
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ill say this - trump wont impose targiffs if you have none , he said so , he has been a man of his word so far , he has said what he would do and done what he said , if im in error ill accept the coaction , if we put a taroiff on you it was because we wanted your lifted ,
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Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 2:41am
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If I could slightly change the topic to the tariffs on Chinese made goods President Trump's plan is working. China has signaled a willingness to discuss the trade imbalance and tariffs with President Trump if he first drops the tariffs on Chinese made goods. President Trump, being the canny negotiator he is has refused because he knows darn well the Chinese will drag out negotiations for years. President Trump holds the winning hand because the Chinese economy is crashing and factories are closing daily. This is another hammer blow to China's already fragile economy due to their mortgage crisis after several property developers such as Evergrande defaulted on their debts. 2023 saw a record 8 million Chinese citizens default on their mortgages and loans. Americans need to simply sit tight, take a little short term pain for long term gain and trust that President Trump knows exactly what he is doing.
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 8:06pm
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sapper , that was what i was seeing as well , i think in the end everyone will be treated fairly , but we wont be getting the short end anymore
thats interesting about their mortgage situation , i didnt know all that , we have a major issue to deal with in terms of our student loan crisis , waiting to see how trump deals with that mess
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