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Topic: New Member from Virginia
Posted By: Sauron
Subject: New Member from Virginia
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 7:33am
Greetings everyone.  New to the forum.  I'm the recent recipient (temporarily) of an Ishapore No.1 MK3.  It's was bought by my grandfather about 70 years ago and now belongs to my father.  He asked me to look after it and get it into serviceable condition and clean it up and I'll return it to him in a few months.  

I've been watching a number of videos about the rifle and have some experience working on some of my older rifles so I'm looking forward to helping my dad with this project.

Aside from a complete disassembly and de-lousing, my initial priorities are going to be replacing a broken extractor spring (already ordered) and sorting out the head space.  The bolt closes on a Forster field gauge.  I put one round through it with modern S&B ammo and was greeted with a shiny ring just above the rim (but no bulging).  Assuming that will be the "fun" part to deal with.  :)

I was intrigued enough by the rifle that I bought a couple of newer variants for myself (very lightly used No4 MK2).  I guess I should also invest in some reloading dies for 303 British.  

As soon as I have a few moments, I'll get started with some questions and hope to participate in the forums.

Best,


 



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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 11:23am
I replied to your other post about headspace.Wink
Something to remember with RIMMED cases is that headspace is ONLY the rim thickness, nothing else.
What I believe you have is a perfectly normal chamber with its famous "generous dimensions" to allow chambering in dirty trench conditions.
Are you familiar with the peculiarities of the SMLE rifle & its correct disassembly? If not I suggest you research a little before dismantling as  doing it improperly even once can result in permanent damage.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 11:27am
Welcome from North Carolina.


Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 2:54pm
Welcome from Texas

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Posted By: Sauron
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 3:47pm
Yep, I have a disassembly manual and I watched a couple of videos like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfEws5vC3X0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfEws5vC3X0

It's all broken down now and I'm cleaning her up.

Thanks!



Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 3:55pm
WELCOME from the north coast , land of too many taxes and way to much fraud 


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by Sauron Sauron wrote:

 The bolt closes on a Forster field gauge.  I put one round through it with modern S&B ammo and was greeted with a shiny ring just above the rim (but no bulging).  
 

Welcome to the forum.

I would not dismiss this.   The bolt should NOT close on a field gage. The “shiny ring” above the case head is an indication that the web of the case is severely strained and close to fracture. This should not happen with a new case, but something expected only after many reloads with a chamber that is within headspace limits. 

While it is not necessarily unsafe to fire, it needs attention. For the time being, don’t bother with reloading the fired cases, they are probably already near the point of case head separation. 






Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 6:02pm
Welcome from Alberta, Canada.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 8:01pm
ARGHHHHH!
He missed a very important step.
Ouch
PLEASE tell me you didn't "lever" the forend off by pulling the front down to free the wood from the action!
Shocked



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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Sauron
Date Posted: November 30 2025 at 8:27pm
No sir.  It pretty much dropped straight down without any fuss.  I definitely didn't force anything or apply any real pressure to remove it.  What was the missing step?

Best,



Posted By: Sapper740
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 3:09am
A big 'HOWDY' from Texas!


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 5:37am
That is a kin to call a charger a stripper clip.


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 11:42am
Making sure you insert & remove the wood parallel to the barrel.
Star
Releasing a sticky one by pulling down on the tip crushes the wood in "The Draws" ruining the bedding.


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Sauron Sauron wrote:

No sir.  It pretty much dropped straight down without any fuss.  I definitely didn't force anything or apply any real pressure to remove it.  What was the missing step?

Best,


Probably because the fore-end was not a tight fit on the action body.  A properly fitting fore-end must be carefully tapped off the action with a wood block positioned on the upper back edges of the fore-end just in front of the butt socket.  


Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 12:05pm
I have about two hundred nickel plated. Nickel suck.

I was give them and they are loaded with hunting loads.


Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

ARGHHHHH!
He missed a very important step.
Ouch
PLEASE tell me you didn't "lever" the forend off by pulling the front down to free the wood from the action!
Shocked


Got a chuckle from the video, he makes a great point at the beginning to use a screw driver bit THAT FITS THE SLOT, but then proceeded to use bits that were far too small for the slot!

There is no reason to ever bugger a screw on these rifles if you use the right size bit, both in thickness and in width.  


Posted By: Sauron
Date Posted: December 01 2025 at 2:35pm
It was fairly tight.  I basically just put the butt stock on the table and then stacked a few books under the end of the barrel tip so that the barrel was parallel to the table and the gun was upright.  Then I pushed the stock that surrounds where the trigger guard is with both thumbs and eased it down.  It didn't require any tapping/hammering and gradually slid free of the barrel with downward pressure from my thumbs on either side of the receiver.  It is pretty snug though.

Best,



Posted By: M@tt
Date Posted: December 02 2025 at 1:16am
Sauron, Welcome from another relative newbie.



Posted By: britrifles
Date Posted: December 02 2025 at 3:19am
Originally posted by Sauron Sauron wrote:

It was fairly tight.  I basically just put the butt stock on the table and then stacked a few books under the end of the barrel tip so that the barrel was parallel to the table and the gun was upright.  Then I pushed the stock that surrounds where the trigger guard is with both thumbs and eased it down.  It didn't require any tapping/hammering and gradually slid free of the barrel with downward pressure from my thumbs on either side of the receiver.  It is pretty snug though.

Best,


More or less how I do it, except I put a block of 2 x 2 under the action body lugs for the rear trigger guard screw and hang the end of the butt stock off the edge of the table, that way, the rifle won't tip over.  If thumb pressure doesn't release the fore-end, I've got a short piece of 1 x 2 to place along the upper/aft edges of the fore-end.  To avoid applying any crushing force to the draws, you want to apply the pressure at the very back of the fore-end, behind the position of the sear lugs.  

I've probably removed the fore-end on my No. 4 T at least 25 times this way, and it's still very snug, must be tapped off with the 1 x 2 wood block. 





Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: December 02 2025 at 4:05am
Welcome to the forum, from Paris France..
If you intend to reload.303 it's best to avoid the SB ammunition. The cases are generally very brittle and don't last more than a couple of reloads. The PPU ammunition is better for reloading.


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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: December 02 2025 at 1:17pm
The point with the screwdrivers is a good one.
We had a newbie to the Enfield world a while back who must have bought 3 sets of "El Cheaponar" ones before biting the bullet & getting REAL gunsmith's screwdrivers. Luckily he did no harm with the ones he bought.


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