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Interest in .45 DeLisle replica's?

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Topic: Interest in .45 DeLisle replica's?
Posted By: Richard/SIA
Subject: Interest in .45 DeLisle replica's?
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 4:52pm
Now that I have my .45 magazine adaptors back in stock I was thinking of making up some more non-suppressed Delisle near replica's.

I do these in small numbers, but it makes more sense if I do several of them at a time.

Lots of work in them, more than you might expect with the off-set tube.

Price is about $1,200 for a gun that shoots just fine but is NOT suppressed.

They are not exact replica's, but they still fool many people.
They are close enough that I hide large holes in the "suppressor tube" under the fore-wood so that owners can prove to officers that the gun is not really silenced if they are ever asked.

I'm trying to get a feel for how many to make this time around.

I'm still working on improved baffles for the real suppressed version.




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Posted By: Smokey
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 8:09am
I wonder what kind of handloads it can handle. 30,000 PSI in 45 caliber could be pretty potent.


Posted By: Stan the Gunman
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 8:04am
Clap Oh boy do I want one! The laws where I live lets me have one silenced for HUNTING but not for general target practice. Strange but who cares since I can '' practise '' as much as want with a registerd hunting rifle.
 
Can you export too Sweden?Big smile


Posted By: LE Owner
Date Posted: December 12 2009 at 2:20am
Well I hate to say it but the action of the rifle pictured differs greatly from that used by the real Delise.
The originals used a shortened bolt body and a tuned down .45 SMG barrel that protuded through the receiver ring, resulting in a short throw action which is one of its best features. The magazine adaptor was arranged to set the mag far back in the mag well.
 
On the downside the turned down shank was unsupported at the chamber area, so only the standard pressure .45 ACP would be safe. The chamber wall being necessarily thin .
 
The later clone version adaptations may allow higher pressures, but several of the higher pressure propriatary loadings used by custom guns like the Detonics were known for blowing out the base of standard dimension .45 ACP cases, the webs weren't thick enough.
Special thick web cases may be available for higher pressure loads.
 
During the 70's a .45 round dedicated for silenced carbine use was based on a cut down .458 belted magnum case. It used bullets of up to 500 grains for maximum impact at subsonic velocity.
The rifles used were more modern sporter actions with bolt heads suited to the magnum rim size.
 
A .45 ACP silenced carbine was also built on the Remington 788 action.


Posted By: sabretech2001
Date Posted: January 06 2010 at 2:58pm

Richard,

Would these be built on No4 actions or on No1 actions like in the photo?

And how is that scope mount for the No4 rifle going? Been quite awhile since you posted about it.



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Posted By: Richard/SIA
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 1:53pm
I have been gather beat and DP No, 1 actions for these.

The No. 1 makes a more accurate DeLisle.

I stated "Near-replica", as I am not attempting to make them exactly as original.
My version is much more practical.

The scope mounts are awaiting some tooling which I expect to get in next week.
Then I can begin to make them in quantity, instead of one at a time.


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At over $3.00 a gallon for gas, I want it leaded, 100 octane, and my windshield washed!


Posted By: JonathanH
Date Posted: June 08 2010 at 10:52pm
I think they are really neat and if they were ever to come across the boarder I'd love to save up for one. Sadly though I don't think you can import guns from the United States to Canada and if you can its a really really expensive process.


Posted By: limpetmine
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 10:44pm
yes.


Posted By: Beerhunter
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 4:13am
Originally posted by Richard/SIA Richard/SIA wrote:

I have been gather beat and DP No, 1 actions for these.

What on earth is the matter with you?

You have no idea why those actions were DP'd and so it is the height recklessness to reuse them.


Posted By: Richard/SIA
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 4:39am
You are making a LOT of negative assumptions!
You can easily save yourself, just don't buy any.

DP rifle sights, trigger guards, wood, etc. are unsafe?
Salvaging small parts to make Bubba guns more complete is dangerous?
So I guess every restored gun on this site is an attack on fellow enthusiast!

I PERSONALLY test fire every gun I build, and I'm never worried about it, never had a failure beyond incomplete extraction, or light primer hits.

I'm not airing the exact details of each build to gratify your ego, go hunt up more beer and amuse yourself into a stupor.


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At over $3.00 a gallon for gas, I want it leaded, 100 octane, and my windshield washed!


Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 8:21pm
Once again I note cutting and pasting to provoke arguments has started. I am aware this post plus other posts on this forum are being discussed elsewhere. Any further infractions will be dealt with by Eric CM or myself! 

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 6:40am
Thanx Tony!Knew I could depend on ya, mate!
Hoadie

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Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 7:15am
Hey Hoadie , Next time we talk on the phone ..let Me in on this ..I dont go to other sights that often unless its to look up some thing ...

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:36am
Let ya in on what? In my opinion its a non-issue, bud. Coupla guys pissin on each other, draggin down the integrity of the forum.
Non starter, Rhino...not even woth comment
Let the moderators handle it.

Hoadie

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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Tony Tony wrote:

Once again I note cutting and pasting to provoke arguments has started. I am aware this post plus other posts on this forum are being discussed elsewhere. Any further infractions will be dealt with by Eric CM or myself! 
 

Thank You again Tony for staying on top of this

 
 
 
. We run a very open forum here and everyone’s opinions are always welcome, however person attacks will not be tolerated!  There is a difference between constructive criticism and your personal opinions verses a personal attacks and Instigating arguments. As Tony stated this will be delt with  Accordingly.
 
CM


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 1:38pm
wish i could recall where - there was someone asking about these recently elsewhere , very nice 


Posted By: Richard/SIA
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 5:08pm
Have begun making up bits for the new non-suppressed version.

It will use more aluminum parts for lighter weight since there is no need to support a suppressor assembly or gas pressures.

Full length 16" barrel under a 2.00" x .060" aluminum tube.
Will also remove the charger guide to more closely replicate the original configuration, unless requested to leave it for use with a scope mount.


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At over $3.00 a gallon for gas, I want it leaded, 100 octane, and my windshield washed!



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