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Topic: sad news
Posted By: hoadie
Subject: sad news
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 10:29pm
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Folks - I just read that the WINCHESTER factory(New Haven,Connieticut) closed it's doors for good on Friday.They called the employees in, & thanked for their work, & dismissed them.
This is the plant that manufactered the lever action model.(Bin there for like 140 years!) I guess it's owned by Belgians(?) now. The only Winchester I got is a semi auto 12 guage.But, it's the end of an era, for sure. (A moment of silence, please.) Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
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Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 10:16am
| Communist pigs that run the US government finally done it all the guns laws and law suits cost them too much money. |
Posted By: shotgunminister
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 10:22am
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Winchester fell victim to it's parent company Herstal. Also I feel that they did not have what the market wanted. The lever action rifle which was the main stay of the company has fallen from popularity in recent years. ------------- I've seen the future and I don't like it. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 03 2006 at 10:20pm
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Personally, I'd agree w/shotgunminister.I have never liked the lever action rifle.(Personal choice) Gimme a bolt N E day. But it was wildly popular for a LONG time.Look how many companies copied it.
hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 12:13am
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Winchester .....Will rise from the ashes like the phinex !!!!!!! Dave (wipeing a tear from his eye) |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 1:10am
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Davie; Is your spelling really that bad - or is that how you talk when you write ?
(Phoenix) Man, what you aussies do to the good King's english! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 1:27am
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It's a sign of the great education I recived as a child ......I got
learned real good I did ! Funny thing is my Old Man only found out
recently that I had been asked to leave the Quorn area school at 14 yrs
Old never to return !!!! I spent several days trying to avoid the issue
with him but he decided that there was no future in my going to school
(If he'd only known how close to the truth he was at that time ) So it
was off as a Pro shooters off sider for me .To learn the craft that has
served me well all these years ! Spelling has never been one of my
strong points! AS for speach I'll have you know! I have been said to
use profanities with the skill a Painter uses Oils ! So far as Butchering the King's english ? Sir I will have you know I am related to royalty ...........I've got a cousin that's a "Queen"  Dave |
Posted By: ledom daor
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 2:35am
I have always felt spelling is over rated!! I too cant spell.. I still manage to get my point accross... You got to love the folks down under! One day I am going down there.. ------------- Governments are like Dogs. The bigger they are, the more poo they leave for you to clean up! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 2:35am
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You mean your cousin,"Bruce" is really "Sheila"?
Oh-I guess that would be: Her Royal Majestic Graciousness Sheila ? Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: shotgunminister
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 2:57am
------------- I've seen the future and I don't like it. |
hoadie wrote:Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 5:38am
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Funny you mention the 1300.I've got the 1400 12 ga.Most folks never heard of it.I've had ALOT of service with it, & I've bin really happy with it.It's the only Winchester I own.(Bought it used, years ago)
Lotsa birds rabbits & trap bin taken.Still, it's sad to see another American icon go. Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 10:25am
Poor Old Phil (my cousin ) I think would love to called a sheila! Me I just like to refer to him as The Family POOF, The token POOF or just simply G'day ya Poofta Needless to say I'm not on his xmas mailing list (or is that male list?)Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 12:25pm
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Well, it's YOUR family. The "Poof is in the puddin!" lol
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: N/I\Z
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 3:58pm
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Hey, the lever action was The Business in its day. It was a while before the bolt-action and a working box magazine were put together - just in time for the Boer War. But now - who would try rapid fire with a 100-year-old MLE? I would. I have. Using modern ammunition, even. Nothing dropped off the rifle. Only 1 round did not reach the target. Now, would I want to do it with a 100-year-old Winchester lever-action. Er, no thanks. For one thing, I would be concerned about damaging the thing - these things are collected by idiots with heaps more money than brains. Plus I would be worried about bits falling off the thing. Dismantle a Winchester lever action. Count the parts. Now dismantle a Lee Enfield. Count the parts. Case closed. I am always saddened to hear of a name that has stood for something real in this world being shut down by bean-counters and bought up by opportunists.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 9:57pm
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U.S. Repeating Arms Co was around for a long time.The article I read showed W.Churchill @ proving grounds w/2 U.S. generals, shooting the lever action, during WW II.
Wont be long before All the historic names will be gone Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 10:48pm
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I heard of this when it happened, and i was told that the employees terminated were walkin out of the doors with rifles under their arms. Also whats wrong with aussie grammar? I was learn-ed to spoken good england! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 6:18am
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Under their COATS maybe.(Gotta salvage sumthin, I s'pose.
hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 10:17am
I would of been wearing a very big coat that Day (the sort that Hoadie wears when he hangs around parks ect )Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 11:50am
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S.O.A.B !! How did YOU find out ?!?!Dang!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 5:43pm
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Hoadie!!! im worried 'bout you now mate.
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 10:48pm
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No worries, Allan..I found that I can ALWAYS run faster scared, than they can MAD!!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 4:24am
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 6:10am
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You wont believe what I found out! I wuz talkin to a guy I've known since I was knee high to a grass-hopper today.His name is Dennis.He restores WW II vehicles.He's bin @ that fer years.Got a couple of barns full of 'em.Anyway-he just revealed to me that he has a chest(wooden shipping chest) full of Longbranch Enfields!!!(8 in the chest) Unissued-still in packing grease!!When he opened that chest & I saw them - I swear-I couldn't breathe!!
He wont sell them (he's funny that way!) In fact-I'll bet I'm just about the only person he's told! I still cant believe how I felt when I saw that! On another note-I was talkin to an old friend last night-Harry.He's a retired machinist.He was telling me that durin the war he worked for British Electric here in town.As many companies did-they recieved a contract to make gun parts for the war effort.He ended up making parts for the Inglis Bren gun.(Someone had mentioned that very make earlier here, in the forum) He told me that Inglis wanted to make a name for themselves-so they ordered Brit.Elec to cut the tolerances IN HALF, on the parts.He said it went fine until she'd heat up -then she would sieze solid!(Says it didn't make a very good club-either!)Evidently this problem became apparent in the dessert campaign. Anyone know anything bout this? He says they got an urgent messge to loosen tolerances up-so they did. Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:05am
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Cool, ill forward my address and you can get him to send some my way |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:28pm
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Information!!!!! I was told Winchester is not closing the doors, but there are moving production to Japan to be more competitive. Just as Browning did. Cookie Mpnster |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:32pm
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What!? Where'd ya hear that? Japan?!
hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 11:50am
I had a nasty suspition that this might happen ! Nothing like cheap labour  Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 11:52am
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CHEAP? I didn't think J A pan was cheap any more.I thought it was the CHINEESE!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 12:07pm
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A friend I know works at the Winchester Ammo plant close by. I figured he would know he is employed with them. Cookie Monster |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 12:19pm
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Is this the person that told you?
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 9:30pm
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Hoadie, Yes I asked him if his employer was going belly up and he told me no, "that they were moving production to Japan". Cookie Monster
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 9:57pm
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Holy smokes...japan? If I was movin for cheap labour & energy, & little to no property tax-I'd be goin to China
Wouldn't you? Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 12:47am
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from what ive heard china is on the move big time.. |