Is this the right one??
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Topic: Is this the right one??
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Is this the right one??
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 4:19am
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Hi....just wondered if this one is the correct one to go with the Enfield...Savage No.4? (U.S.A) 1942...
Thanks...
Andrew.. |
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Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 11:03am
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Ya, it would be a correct period bayonet. They really didn't manufacture any other style bayonets for the No.4 until after WWII. Atleast this is what I have read!
Eric |
Posted By: myenfield
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 6:19am
| If you really want to get fussy, you may want a Savage manufactured bayonet. I can't tell from your photo if yours is or not, but if it is it should have a squared off "S", possibly in a box marked on it somewhere. |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 7:18am
They were designed for quick mass production, the other thing is being a spike they didn't jam as easily as the bowie type if you stuck them into somebody. The other use was probing for mines. If any of you have seen the old entrenching tool that was supplied. 2 piece like a pick with a ferrule on the bottom of the shaft like the muzzle of an enfield. The bayonet clipped on and you could probe for mines to your hearts content. Personally I'd rather send Hoadie in with his size 14 hobbit boots rather than prod around for something that could blow the end off me pick shaft or worse if you hit a shu mine and it popped off. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 7:54am
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hoadie wears a size 9 1/2 - 10.
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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 1:25am
Talking about your shoe size not your IQ hoadie!  ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 6:46am
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I dunno how that reply got THERE!
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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: December 26 2006 at 9:31am
| thats a keeper , technicaly they were issued randomly so any bayo mfrg could be with any rifle , but what has been sugested is true that savage made both as did longbranch so you can "match" those if you want , a nice "S" would possibly interest a purchaser but wont be any more valuable [id say get one and get the US made M5 scabord made by victory plastics with integral frog - but you may need to settle for a canadian sling] |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:46am
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International Military Antiques sells the "Victory Plastics" US-made scabbards for around $15 (US). I bought one and it was in decent shape. Hopefully soon when I can post photos, I'll fire off a photo.
Mark ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 8:56am
| looking forward to the photo , there are two versions of these and cant recall the exact details but it has to do with rivets |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 6:59am
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Yes, I had heard about there being two versions of the "Victory Plastics" Scabbard. The one I have has the canvas frog riveted directly to the scabbard, with a strap around the mouth of the scabbard. I'm not sure about the "other version", although I could have sworn I saw another "Victory Plastics" scabbard in a photo here on this site, that scabbard did not have a frog riveted to it (at least that is what it looked like in the photo to me).
As for me posting photos on this site, it might be a while, so check out International Military Antiques website, the photo on the site is the exact vesion of the scabbard I have. Mark ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 10:41am
| mine is double riveted at the back with web wrapping around the front - it may have been mine you saw but i dont recall if i posted it , i would not have shown the back as ive not shot that so it might have looked without rivet , id like to find the second so id have an excuse to buy another bayo :>} |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 11:28am
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All right, did a little searching. A photo of the type of scabbard I have is in the thread entitled "A Pile of the Them". There is also another Victory Plastics scabbard (without frog) photographed lying on the Union Flag in the thread "Gratuitous Bayonet Shot". I can not tell if that is a different version of scabbard, or that the canvas frog is long gone.
I think those are the only two photos I know of. I really hope someday I can get to posting photos (the Girlfriend and I are planning to take care of that soon), not saying I have a great collection, just would like to show some of my items off...LOL. Mark I promised photos of my Savage No.4 Mk.II Bayonet and the Victory Plastics Scabbard a while back, here they are. 
------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 9:12am
| Tomcat , its not the great we want to see particularly , we enjoy all the photos , often learn of new things and interesting deviations that way , we encourage your photos and look forward to them , ill try to shoot my scabords one day soon - i think my "OLD" photos are beginning to bore folks , i need to learn lighting and backdrops to get mine to look better |
Posted By: Target
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 1:21pm
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Where can i get a frog for mine. I have the same type as the one pictured and looked for one but couldnt find anythin? |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 6:21pm
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try: whatpriceglory.com
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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 7:09am
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I may have the style of bayonet & scabbard you're looking for.
Some kind of early plastic (Nylon? Bakelite?) bayo is the spike with the square "S".
There is no frog, but it looks like it snapped into a couple of "buttons" for lack of the correct term.
Mine came with a '42 savage like yours, but not being a collector, I just wiped it with oil & stored it.
------------- Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force) |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 12:36pm
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I totally agree with the suggestion to check out What Price Glory Militaria for a Pattern-1937 Bayonet Frog. I have not had any bad experiances with that lot.
Also might not hurt to check out another Reenactors Kit site called "Bayonet Inc.". I got a bayonet frog (Indian made specific for the No.4 Spike Bayonet) for around $8. Also check out International Military Antiques, I think they also have bayonet frogs. Most of the bayonet frogs that I have I found at gun shows for fairly cheap. Hope I helped out a bit. Mark ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 6:26pm
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Tomcat R U a re-enactor as well?
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Posted By: allan
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 7:27pm
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speaking of re-enacting, bought some gear off collectorsarmoury.com.au the other week and he has deactivated ex movie prop rifles for sale...geez..the price!!! can buy a fully operational for the same money.
http://www.collectorsarmoury.com.au/Collectors%20Armoury/default.html - http://www.collectorsarmoury.com.au/Collectors%20Armoury/default.html
scroll to the bottom of the page, check out the sherman he sold. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 11:43am
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I'm getting into WWII reenacting, kind of a progress in action.
Mark ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: Hatchetman
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 4:26pm
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Oy tomcat, us aussies can send you a slouch hat if you want if you are thinking of putting on aussie colours.
------------- But the winters coming, And the snow will cover tracks, And I'll be watching, Because I'm hunting you - Sarah Blasko, The Gardens End |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 5:52pm
Which nation /unit U joinin? I dunno what part of the states ur in - but they just had the reading P.A. shindig.(Argyl & Southern Highlanders -Cdn) I have the pics if ya wanna check 'em out.You'll hafta P.M. me, & give me ur e-dress Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
TomcatPC wrote:Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 7:24am
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Somerset Light Infantry, 43rd. (Wessex) Division, not totally sure if I want to portray the 4th or 7th Bn. yet. It is still a work in progress at this point. I hooked up with a group that portray Special Air Service shortly after moving to the Lower 48 and was with them for a couple years. I have always had my heart set on portraying a regular Tommy, with no Denison Smock, special helmets, etc. So around Jan. I made my mind up to portray the county regiment from where my Dad's family is from, hence the Somerset Light Infantry.
I live in Toledo, Ohio (I don't like it much at all) and will be attending an event at Fort Meigs here in Toledo this weekend. I have had auto problems and the cash flow has been a bit inconsistent here lately, so it might be a while before I can get to more events, but that might change. I still plan to go to events with my friends from the SAS unit, seeing as I am probably one of the very few in the States that have desire to portray the Somersets, and I don't fancy going at it totally on my own, but that might change also, never know. Mark I think this post is way off topic with concerns to the No.4 Spike Bayonet...LOL. ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 9:19am
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The lads doing the A&SH also do reg Brit A&SH.
You did get the vid of the 9th Panzer's new Tiger tank, didn't ya? Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: TomcatPC
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 11:17am
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Tell you what, how about we take this topic into the Other Topics sections.
Mark ------------- The .303" Cartridge, Helping Englishmen express their emotions since 1888. |