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Topic: No4 with mixed serial numbers

Posted By: Aardvark
Subject: No4 with mixed serial numbers
Date Posted: August 01 2012 at 9:42pm

I have recently inherited a No4 Mk2. The rifle is in great shape with a 5 groove barell, strong rifiling, excellent crown, good finish, and excellent wood. (beech).

The rifle has obviously seen use but not abuse.

I am a bit puzzled by the mixed serial numbers.

Electropenciled on the left side of the receiver is:

NO 4 MK 2 (F)

11/49 PF 153859

On the bolt handle is:

153859

However, on the left side of the wrist (butt socket) is:

6648

Obviously, this is not the bolt that originally came with this rifle.

There do not appear to be any other signifigant markings. No proof marks. No apparent import marks.

My questions:

1. Since only Fazarkely made the No4 Mk 2 can I presume that the number AA 6648 is an original

Fazarkely number?

2. Since there is no "FTR" marking, what might account for the replacement bolt and the

electropencil serial number?

Any thoughts, theories, or information will be much appreciated.

Replies:

Posted By: Cookie Monster
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 1:08am

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new rifle, let us know how she shoots and post pictures if you can

The "Cookie Monster"

Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 6:13am

I don't remember the date when the factory serial moved from the wrist to the receiver side, but you may find that you do have a matching bolt & action, the number on the wrist may not be the original one!

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Posted By: Aardvark
Date Posted: August 02 2012 at 9:13am

I should have mentioned that the numbers on the bolt handle AND the numbers on the wrist

are STAMPED, NOT electropenciled. The only electropenciled numbers are the ones on the left side of the receiver.

There is also a small, very faint F stamped into the top of the bolt handle root.

Posted By: BlackAck
Date Posted: August 03 2012 at 1:51am

The AA mark has been found on other Enfields and is thought to stand for Ardrossan Academy. The 6648 may be a locally assigned ID. The No. 7 & No. 8 rifles I learned to shoot with had a cadet contingent ID on them on the left wrist in electro-pencil too, our CQMS came up with them. I just remember how awful they looked. So strange serials are not without precedent.

Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: August 06 2012 at 4:53am

i agree with the above its an original matching mk2 by FAZ the other marking is a rack/ID #