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Topic: best military rifle
Posted By: 303carbine
Subject: best military rifle
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 9:40am
| Some will say the Mauser is the best but I think everyone on this site will say the Enfield is king. Later, 303carbine |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 9:22pm
Yaeh call me biased but I have to admit when it comes to a bolt action The enfield has nothing to be ashamed of ! It helped to control a empire & then a Commonwealth for a lot of years ! Dave |
303carbine wrote:Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 4:21am
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I have a huge amount of faith in the Enfields. They have always hit whatever I'm aiming at, and have never malfunctioned. But then again, since an Enfield was the first rifle I ever owned, I'm probably biased as well! Eric |
Posted By: shotgunminister
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 1:03am
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It was once said back in the day: "The Springfield is a target rifle, the Mauser is a huntin' rifle, but the Enfiled is a battle rifle." ------------- I've seen the future and I don't like it. |
Posted By: 303carbine
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 3:18pm
It sure is nice to be all on the same Enfield page here. I sent Eric our trusty administrator some more Enfield pics, I trust he will post them for me when he gets a moment.  Thanks Eric for a good site for us Enfield addicts
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Posted By: 303carbine
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 3:21pm
Just a little note to say hi to Dave H from Australia.  John ,from British Columbia, Canada
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Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 3:48pm
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Hey, thanks for the praise. I wanted to have a place that all Enfield lovers could hang out. After the unfortunate passing of Mark Bitting, britishguns.net went down. I was hoping to be able to revive britishguns.net, however, after contacting Mark's lovely widow, we were unable to get things worked out. So, this was the only other option I had. I plan on adding more pages to the site, it's just slow coming. I just purchased the forum software license from the programmer the designed it. You may have noticed that the google adds are now missing. I couldn't wait to get the license so I could get rid of those gosh-for-saking adds! I just had to make sure there were going to be enough people using the forum to make it worth while. Oh well, I'm at work and it's almost 12:00 midnight! My brain is fried. We had our main Domain Controller go belly up late today and I have the unfortunate luck to rebuild it. So, as you may have guessed by now, I'm VERY tired and am rambling on....... GOOD NIGHT!! Eric |
Posted By: ledom daor
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 4:05pm
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I do love the Enfield, it is a good shooter that looks real sharp and has a real cool history.. But I must say that one can not just blow the M1 off.. 30.06 is a great round! ------------- Governments are like Dogs. The bigger they are, the more poo they leave for you to clean up! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 4:19pm
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you cant really say which is best because really when it comes down to it when the bullet comes out of the barrel and hits some one, they all do the same thing. so i think that you have to sum up the performance of each ex miliratry rifle. the Enfield (in general) * fast smooth action, detachable box mag, 10 round capcity, 2400fps muzzle velocity. German Mauser (and other countries that copied it with the same caliber, ie turkish, austrian.) *2800fps muzzle velocity, most acurate rifle, solid bolt. Russian Mosin Nagant * 2600fps muzzle velocity, peasent rifle. Japanese arisaka * 2400fps muzzle velocity.
these are in no ranking order, but i do say that the enfield tops the lot because although it is one of the slowest, 10 round capacity just means alot more shots at the enemy in a quicker time period, as well as it having the smoothest bolt. best modern military rifle? Kalashnikov, no doubt. bury it in sand, throw it in water, run over it with a truck, throw it off a cliff, it still works, so without a doubt the best rifle ever made. so when you think of it an army of pure untrained soldiers can use this and hardly have to maintain it. after all that happening to it it isant as accurate but still packs a punch. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 4:21pm
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oh this is where i got my info from....
http://www.surplusrifle.com/smle/index.asp - http://www.surplusrifle.com/smle/index.asp |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 5:11pm
Hey Dunno look up any data you can find on the German MP44 (it makes
one really think about the origans of the Klashnikov ) Having been shot
at by people armed with these I can agree they are idiot proof ! But I
feel that as they fall into the class of a assullt weapon ,they are are
only a intermediate cartridge not a Full blown Rifle ...They fall
into the Grey area between Submachine guns (a ammo hungry chatter
box that runs dry just as the situation becomes truley interesting )
& the full blown rifle round that comes into it's own for presise
long range shooting (which also tends to run dry as the situation
becomes really interesting  )Dave |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 5:27pm
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i am sure that the AK 47 is 7.2x51, standard NATO caliber. thats what the Mosin Nagant caliber is. the bloke that made the ak denies that he made it based on any design buthis own. but they say he based it on an MP 44 like you said dave. but i think it was a combanation of the Tokarev SVT-38 SVT-40 and the MP 44. he just dosent like the germans seeing as though he was a tank commander. so i dont think it falls under assault rifle, more like self loading rifle because its barrel is almsot the same length as a Lee Enfield MK V. the styer aug is an assault rifle, not to mention the dodgy saftey catch it has on it. |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 5:41pm
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Weren't the MP 40 series brought in to compete with the russian PPSh 21 which had a 71 round magazine? ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 5:58pm
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The Kalashnikov was 762 x 39 short the nato ammo was 762x51 long. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 6:30pm
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Ya hit the nail on the Head Toney The 7.62x 39 falls roughly into the
same power factor of a 30-30 roughly ! Hense it becomes a assult rifle
rnd! or a intermidiate Round The 5.56 is now the standard Nato
Round (God help us all ) The Mp40 seris were a differant wapon the MP44
actualy appeared in 1943 & Hitler cannceled it's production seeing
no future in a shorterned 8mm round it was later whilst in Stalingrad
He asked what was needed to break the stalemate ? The reply was
10,000 of these (MP44's ) But they came into full production to late to
make any differance!!! Hey let's face it Slave labour was starting to
get hard to obtain by then ! THe supply of Jews was out stripped by the
demand ! Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 8:31pm
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Thanks Dave my history is very shaky on production of weapons. There were and still are so many variations being made its hard to keep track of them. If its of any interest my lad brought a book home from a second hand book stall. Miltary small Arms of the twentieth century by Ian Hogg and John Weeks Published by Purnell Book Services london. Informative reading for the unintiated like me. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 9:52pm
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F Y I - the AK - 47 is the world's most produced firearm. There is in excess of (get this) 100,000,000.I THINK I got enough zeros. One Hundred MILLION -thats right..ONE HUNDRED MILLION !! Themind can't even imagine that many ! Sadly - MOST of them have been produced without any royalties being paid to the Ruskies.They hold the patent - but nobody honours it.(Try THAT with an American rifle!!)
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:06pm
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sorry hoadie, its only 50 - 70 million produced. they dont know a number to the nearest million because they are produced from afganistan to mexico.
so i was mistaken it is more of an assault rifle. than that settles the matter, out of all rifles the smelly is the best!
although i wouldent say that to a yank who has an M1 garand. i met a bloke last week that has one and says that all other military rifles are sh*t, the smelly god will take care of him i am sure... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:07pm
| wait allan, what do you mean you were shot at by people using these? were you in vietnam??? |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:22pm
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I Dunno Dano - There was just a WEEK LONG hoopla by the media over here about the AK -47. They interviewed Kahlishnikov himself- as well as big shots in Russian miltary/arms production. Took a whole week THATS where I get the figure of 100 MILLION from. It's produced in more than 150 countries.
Venezuela just signed a deal to buy a wack of them from Russia.(They threw the U.S. deal out) Oh - Alot of yanks LIKE & collect the Garand.But I don't know too many that say it's the best. Ask cookie monster, or Dave.We've all owned 'em..& if I could find my stupid camera - I'd show you WHY they weren't so good ! Note to Cookie Monster & Dave: I'm the proud owner of a nice shiney M-1 thumb as of yesterday!! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 12:03am
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na mate,i wasnt in nam, i was still a sperm swimmin in dads sack, i think dave has had some experience in the armed forces though from what ive read.
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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 8:49am
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Jesus you lot make me feel old. I remember the Korean war, Coronation ( no it wasn't Daves cousin being crowned) Suez crisis and Vietnam. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 9:19am
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Tony;
My mate (Robert Camp) was born in Liverpool (I'm Aug 7th, he's Aug 6th) His dad joind the Brit army just before the war, served through the war, & then a full carreer after.Red Devils - RSM.They lived EVERYWHERE that empire was. Bob Sr & the Mrs hadn't seen each other in over a year (closer to 2, actually)He was in Malta-I believe-& RAF was brining the Mrs & a few other military families to settle in.She told the story of how as they were approaching to land - they could see the paratroops leavin the other end..On they're way to the Suez! Robert Sr. was presented the B.E.M. by HM Elizabeth, for his work in Jamaica. Seems as though someone was always givin the world a hot foot in those days! Geez - you ARE old ! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 10:12am
Ahhhhhhhhh maybe old but I'm handsome! You know how we got the name red devils? Germans started calling brit paras that in N Africa " Rote Tuefel!" Then during the muck up at Arnhem they referred the battle area as the Devils Cauldron.------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 1:39pm
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i guess no oby knows how many ak's have been made? i personally dont like the garand because is semi-automatic. this is me personally, i just dont like semi-automatics. i dont know a whole lot about the M1 so i cant say whats 'really' bad about it. but i am sure the 30-06 cartridge it has, has got a nice kick to it.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 1:55pm
Dunno I served 2 tours of Vietnam & Trust me when I say it
was a very over rated experiance! It's something that you tend to put
behind you a it all happened too long ago for anyone really to care
about now Dave. |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 5:45pm
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Theres a new company in California - claims they're makin the "best" ak -47 in the world. Showed it being run onver 2x by a humvee, then fired, submerged-then fired, buried - then fired etc.Their goal is to sell 'em to the U S military.(Lotsa luck ! N. I. H. !!)
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 7:45pm
| the american military wouldent touch an AK 47 with a 10 foot pole! |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 10:19pm
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Dave.. what the !!!! you served your country mate so of course people care!! i do anyway!! dont know about some young punks nowa days though. |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 1:43am
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You still have the bad dreams too Dave? Wake up wondering where you are and feeling for your rifle? ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 7:07am
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I know THAT feeling...I have "flashbacks" from wars I was never in !!!
(Got all my scars from battlin the "keeper of the Fury !!") Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 7:08am
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P.S. I also have a few from long nights of hand to glass combat !
hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 7:38am
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Think yourself lucky Hoadie! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 8:10am
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Yes Tony I have my own private little Hell that I like to
visit ! Bi polar ,Post traumatic stress syndrome ect ! But at the end
of the Day it was a long time ago& I took the Coin when I signed up
& there fore I have to live with the results. Dave |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 1:18pm
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yes, hoadie i can reflect to what you say, i cop flack off "YE WHOM HOLDETH THE ROLLING PIN" |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 3:40pm
This is why the good lord gave us Kevlar Helmets Dave |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 5:08pm
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Dave, you know i never thought of that, might be able to pick up an ol' tommy hat cheap.. now ive got the upper hand.....
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 5:48pm
Sorry- but I'm old school...mine's tin (heavy as hell.too) I end up with a sore neck if I wear it too long ! hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 3:11pm
I was issued with a steel helmut years ago! Too late they told me it
was to be worn on the head & not kept under the bed for night use  Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 6:19am
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Never thought ! It woulda bin MUCH better used THAT way!
Only time I use it - is when I'm workin below someone ! hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 2:05am
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Is that where the American term "Crap Hat " came from ? ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: 303carbine
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 2:46pm
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I have many family members that served in WW1,.WW2 and Korea. To all the members here that did their duty in far away hostile places we owe a debt and our respect and I for one thank them and remember their sacrifice for our freedom and democracy. Dave, your tours of duty show something about you ,and you are not forgotten.........John |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 3:11pm
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Thanks for the kind words John ! All I can say is that WAR is a mugs
game & should be avoided at all possible cost ! Unless we send all
the Polititions to do the dirty work for us ! I'd
like to see that Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 6:16pm
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If politicians who start wars, had to go withj the lads & fight..there would be no more war!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 7:31pm
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politicians!! did some one say politician? i can feel MR HYDE comin on!!
------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 2:16am
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There's a very true quote in All Quiet on The Western Front. They were discussing politicians and the quote is " Give em all the same grub and all the same pay and the war would be over and done in a day!" I agree with Dave wholeheartedly on that. They should go and see their mates get cut down at the side of them. Its a sickening sight Shame Maggie Thatcher wasn't with us at Goose Green she wouldn't have crowed so loud after that!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 4:44pm
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allan... politician...
it is funny that you mention thatcher, that war hungry mongrel. i belive she has said in her life i will touch war politics on anygiven day of the week, but i wont touch combat politics with a 10 foot pole.
i dont like that women.
ok anyway. i got to talking with a few mates at school about this (all disagree with me). i said the SMLE is the best WWI rifle. back in the trenches it was the best. they came up with a point saying that the smelly had a rate of twist of 1:16 which made it extreamly in accurate. of course, everyone knows that the german mauser was the most accurate, but who cares about accuracy when 'pots shots' are the word of the day. whats the rate of twist in a smelly? i couldent answer that. but it dosent matter, i am sure two 174grn bullets make up for one...
still, go the smelly.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 5:20pm
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THe SMLE came into it's own as it was the more robust action when it
came to mud & snow! It was not as over engineered as the
Mauser ! I think from memory the rate of twist is 1.16 . The
Enfield was blessed with the simlisity of the action & large Mag
capasity Dave |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 7:50pm
| but like i said, who cares about accuracy when 2 = 1... |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 1:41am
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In the right hands any weapon is dangerous. As for 2=1 if you don't get your target with the first round you are on a hiding to nothing. He/she is going to either duck or shoot back either way you lose the element of surprise. Sod all the theory son it comes down to animal instinct, the will to survive, trying to keep calm and determination to make sure the other guy dies for his country. Forget the spray and pray! Practice with your rifle make it your best friend and it'll look after you. A gun is only as accurate as the nut behind the trigger. I've seen guys with state of the art rifles shooting and matched em shot for shot with an enfield using battle leaf sights. I'm not boasting its a statement of fact the gun becomes part of you after practicing long enough. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 10:55am
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this is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine, it is my life, i must master it as i must master my life, without me my rifle is useless..without my rifle i am useless! isnt that how it goes? ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 11:01am
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Geez Allan...I told you not to smoke that stuff !
I dunno, but I think you even got Dano confused ! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: May 02 2006 at 11:08am
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isnt that the marine prayer? ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:33am
I wouldn't know ! I'm from Yorkshire the Lone  County. Its got a boil on its ass called England!!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:57am
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We don't have Marines in Canada.(course,thanx to so many liberal governments - we hardly have a military left at all!)
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 1:09pm
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tony i salute you! spray and pray.. classic.
but i am confused now. simply put, the Lee Enfield = best!!! |
Posted By: Lithgow
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 2:39pm
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Lee Enfield may not be as accurate as the mausers and springfields but it is more reliable and an accurate rifle is useless if it is too gummed up with mud or dirt to work. The Enfield will group in a man size target and lets face it, that is all that is required for a battle rifle. The Enfield is the fastest bolt action military rifle ever made. All in all I think that gives it top spot, But then I am biased as I am totally in love with my Enfield. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 3:40pm
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I totaly agree with Lithgow ! 30 aimmed rounds per min is pretty good
going for a Bolt gun ! The Enfield was a purpose built firearm. that
purpose was to put Humanoid targets down & it did it with
very few complaints ! Dave |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 4:44pm
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well lets face it, a rifle t hat has been the backbone of a huge empire for more than 50 years, it has to be the best. totally agree, with everyone..
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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 7:37pm
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh when England was English and you demmed colonials knew your place. You answered to Queen Vic in those days. Talking of queens hows your cuz Dave?? ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 7:50pm
 To you Tony .....Dave |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 7:52pm
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Bloody colonials indeed !!!!!!!! Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 10:01pm
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Well, I for one am PROUD to be a "Colonial" We bin a pain in the English patoot fer years! I even had a shirt what read,"PROUD TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM."
(Someone knicked it!-rotten commies!) Anyway-we still get to use the Crown, Queen Lizzies mug on our$, & military tradition & badging from blighty.Why make our own -use theirs! Damn, we're cheap! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 1:56am
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oh dammit! why not? ive got british blood! "god save the Queen"! there! i said it!!!! bloody poms! p.s. learn to play bloody cricket would yas?????!!!!!!! ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 2:05am
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Us Yorkies can play cricket it the other buggers who can't!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 2:08am
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This brings me back to our previous conversation bout Cricket...How many beers do ya get fer winnin? Can I use some of my old Hockey equipment?
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 2:16am
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no hoadie!!! ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
ya cant use ya hockey sticks!Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 2:44am
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He'd use his bloody pogo stick . If he could get it back off Daves cuz! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 8:20am
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[QUOTE=Tony]He'd use his bloody pogo stick . If he could get it back off Daves cuz! [/QUOT is that "OFF" or "OUT"?????????????????  Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 9:55am
If it was up to you Dave I know exactly where it would be shoved.  ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: ledom daor
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 9:08am
That is an outfit called Arsenal. I got to pet one in our local gun store.. It was really nice. It is so much more then just an AK, well made. (It is all milled) The one I looked at was in 5.56 here is a photo sorry if the photo size is big.  ------------- Governments are like Dogs. The bigger they are, the more poo they leave for you to clean up! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 2:55pm
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god save the Queen"! Jeez I did'nt even know she was "Crook" (sick to non aussies ) I'll send her a card then ! Al, don't worry about having English Blood !!! That's what Blood transfusetions are for !!!! Now that I've upset the Empire (again ) Those new AK's look to be a nice unit ! But ..........What use are they in the real world ????????? let's face it they were designed for a specific job ! Oh on the subject of Cricket ! I have never seen the sence of going out into the heat of the day to play a game where the object of the exercise is for a chap to throw a hard ball at you & you only have a hunk of wood to defend yourself ! & Your not allowed to run down the pitch & belt him with the hunk of wood after his thrown the ball at you ! Let alone hit him before he can throw the ball at you ! Dave (in a very un Australian moment) |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 6:36pm
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well im "stumped" for words! ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
!!!Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 7:19pm
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Lost your bails Allan?? ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 10:25pm
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Some game THAT turns out to be!!At least in hockey, ya get to fire a very dense, hard puck @ people (usually @ some point, resulting in fractures & lost teeth), & get to start fights with guys WAY bigger than you (usually you get to throw the first hit), secure in the knowledge that the referee will save your bacon! And when it's over, theres ALWAYS a couple cases of beer in the dressing room, to carry you until y'all get to the bar for beer & wings!
Cricket don't sound like it's very civilized. I'll stick to hockey & golf! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 9:35am
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hockey sounds great hoadie...specially the lost teeth part. cricket is a gentlemans sport..cups of tea, scones and the like ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 12:43am
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Be fair Allan he's canadian ! And henpecked!!!!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 4:12am
Oh-so you play Cricket, just for the tea & "crumpet", eh? (I think it's the ABORIGINEES that are the civilized ones!) Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:23am
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(I think it's the ABORIGINEES that are the civilized ones!)
Hoadie That sir is ....Dirty Pool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Dave |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 6:02pm
is the mrs still givin ya heaps hoadie? geez mate youll have to make a chicken coop out the back ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:33pm
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I know that Feeling! I live in a Chook house I married a ......"OLd Boiler" Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 6:03am
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Bet you daren't say that when she's around Dave! Death wish Dave !!!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 6:30am
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You coward!! Say it to her face!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 1:24pm
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he he..there comes a time when everyman knows to say nothing to the mrs face..less her rolling pin hit ya noggin ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 2:03pm
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Ok You Blokes! I'm standng faceing Her (I think....as I Have a Blind fold on )
I'm just finnishing my Last Smoke !!!! Here Goes
.....................................There I've done it & said it !
& I've survived !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jeeze I'm glad she had
her walkman Earphones in & can't read lips ) Dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 7:51am
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?????? has any one ever seen a rifle that has a counter bored muzzel?????? &nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; The "White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 9:58pm
Ive seen several examples of this over the years starting with what could be called extreme Crowning jobs of about 1/4 of a inch into the muzzle through to the first inch or so of a worn muzzle being counter bored . Now several of these were very well done & some of the others ? Well ...................A determened man with a demtral tool or Drill bit can do.........Well really horrible things to a rifle or hand gun Dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 4:47am
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Well Dave, This Rifle has about a 1 and 1/8th inch counter bore in the muzzele its an M38 Rusian Nagant Rifle that i just bought. so what do you think? I havent fired it yet, so i dont know if its accurate or not. it is a rearsanaled job from J&G sales. it lookes pretty good other than the mag bottom cover is forced matched. and very bad machining marks on the reciever. Well Dave hows the roo stew coming? I have eaten some Emu stew before and have jerkeyed it to, fried and Bar-B-Qued it to, it was pretty good. not much there for the effort though especially if you have to feed the critters. they eat as much as a cow in one year. its cheaper to raise the cow or steer for slauter. in my opinoin. what have you to say on this ????? The"White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 5:22am
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Raise osterich, white Rhino.The meat is better, has 0 cholestrol & 0 fat, great yield, feathers are saleable to custom automotive paint shops, & the manure is saleable, too.(& the eggs are AWESOME!)
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 5:24am
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Oh - almost forgot...maybe you can train 'em to let ya ride 'em.Can you imagine the family goin to town to do the shopping, riding on Osteriches?! (OsterI?)
Be quite a sight! Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 7:33am
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Hoadie we sat my boy up on one of the Emu's and hit his but to send him
on his way ,......... Well the boy did a back role to the ground ! and
i became the biggest a$$ hole in the world that day. even though i had
already taken that trophy years ago, I had to accept it again. its an
inherited thing from Mommas side of the famaly.... Ya know her side ??? was Muderers,,,,theives,,,,, AND Bootleggers!!!!!!! really Im not joking about that . My Dads side is more respectfull, More history that actually means some thing. It is really ,,,And really close to you ... Look In New York!!! (Old Flat Bush Area) a House. Look for the first and middel name ( Peter Clausen ............) and my last name. also if i would tell you my grandmothers name you would take that one back to a presadent that fought the British at the Battle of New Orleans.,, then on to the the other side of the Pond to some one named Charles.,.,.,.,., Ive got the later part on disc hear at the house, my sister just gave it to me at my Neices wedding so i only glanced at it when i got home. but -- Yeuup there is some stuff in there about P... Charles and something about confinement and a tower......... so maybe i will let you see it one day, Hey ya still coming down hear to show me how to shoot these Enfields? and what in the world is a Bevy?(A GROUP OF FINE YOUNG LADYS????) I hope ... The "White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 7:51am
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bevy...beverage=beer... mmmmm i got the taste now. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 2:37pm
I would say at a guess the M38 you've brought had a worn muzzle & instead of cutting off the end of the muzzle & then recrowning it . This methord has been used! Now without seeing the actual rifle I would'nt be able to tell if it was done by a comptant gunsmith or if it has been done by a "Backyarder " ! THe only way your going to find out how she shoots is to try it out! If all else fails just cut that section off & get the muzzle recrowned (helpfull hint just have a look down the muzzle & check to see that they've removed all the worn section of rifleing ) The only timeI have ever eaten EMU was as a Kid when Dad used to get a young one & Mum would cook it slowly for about 10 hrs in the oven ! Never did much for me then ! Mum also used to get us to be on the look out for eggs (one Emu Egg =8 Chcken eggs ) She used to make the Nicest Spounge cakes you've ever eatern! Of course she never seemed to worry that she was sending us Kids to face a certain Death getting said eggs away from the Father Bird !!!!!!  Talk about throwing Christens to the lions Emu Farming was becoming a big thing over here ,but I've heard very little of it in recent years.Dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 6:17am
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Yea same over here with the Emu farming every one put their money into
the breeding and slaughtering but no one put the meet out to the
publice to try so it went bust when the breeder market got saturated,Emus were going for $10,000 to upwards as much as $20,000 a peice the high end being the ones that laid more eggs than normal, I had 12 of them at one time ,man talk about tear the naighbors dog up! they were great come Deer season when the hunting clubs dogs came on my property, the emus would tear them up,the ones that got away never did come back. I told my wife we should feed them wearing hunter orange so they would go after the trespassers in the back. they would run you over for a white plastic bucket,them the horses, goats, cows, and sheep. man i could not pick up a bucket around hear with out gettin/causing a stampead. we still have one emu left he has run of the pasture. he kinda sneaks up on ya when im out shooting on my range,or he will dump my ammo out and try to eat it gotta watch him he will try to eat any thing odd. The "White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 1:05am
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You were ok then Dave!! The emus wouldn't attack a heathen ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 9:55am
My Oath I was Ok ! That's why God created little Brothers! They can run like a whippet with a Daddy Emu chasing them ! We had the same thing happen over here with both Ostich & Deer Farming (about 30,000 for breeding Pairs) then as everybody got into the market it went a burton! We have a Herd of wild Fallow deer in the hills due to a Farmer going bust & just relased them! They are classed as a Feral animal in SA & are shot out of Hand ! Mohair Goats were also the rage for several years same thing happened though! Ems have a nasty habit of trying to eat anything that takes their fancey ! Some frends of ours had a Pet emu by the name of Gus & he once came close to being sent to the big Paddock in the sky after he tore off & swallowed several buttons of a very expensive Jacket my Mum had just brought! Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 12:45am
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Struth any chance of a pop at the fallows? You pay good money here to get stalking. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 6:49am
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Hey Dave, Had one Emu eat some top water bass baits, kinda wonderd why
he was bleeding from both ends, The one we got left, we call him dum
dum. I had them eat a half of a 5 gal. bucket of crawfish one time. and we had a couple that would wait by the waters edge for the fish food to floot close enough for them to get. The "White Rhino" ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 6:13pm
Every chance we get round here ! THere are several wild herds round SA & although I belive that in the Eastern States there are controls in place for Deer hunting. I'm sure Allan could help out here ? It's a bit like Camels over here their Bloody Feral & although there's big money in live export . They areclassed as Feral & only a normal hunting permit is needed to shoot the Damn things& as there is a estemated 700,000 roaming around there is no season ! Though the average hunter will never see oneor make the mistake of going through a outfitter to shoot one & pay several thousand dollars for the priverlage ! Dave |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 8:56pm
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you got me on the spot dave..ill have to find out about deer regs for my own records..truthfully, ive never stumbled upon deer on the highlands property i hunt here so its never crossed my mind that there'd be controls on them. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |