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Topic: Rifle Identification
Posted By: Hudson
Subject: Rifle Identification
Date Posted: October 12 2013 at 1:07pm
Hi Everyone! I have had this rifle for awhile tucked in my safe and have never used it. I have everything I need to fire the weapon but thought it would be best to get some info/history first. Looks like I found the right place. I took some photos.
Thanks
B.C Canada
 


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: October 12 2013 at 2:16pm
Welcome to the forum.
There seems to be a dearth of pictures


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: October 12 2013 at 9:00pm
He "took some pictures"...Looks like he TOOK 'em to a safe place, where we'd never see 'em!
Hoadie

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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 12 2013 at 10:29pm
I will try to send the pictures again. Sorry guys. 



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Posted By: Alan de Enfield
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 12:19am
C'mon guys - he never said he had posted them, he only said he had 'took them'.

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 12:38am
Tease!



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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 2:20am


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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 2:40am


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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 2:43am


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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 2:44am


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Posted By: Hudson
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 2:46am
Thanks for your patience!


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 4:45am
I think he'll fit right in Wink

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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 5:08am
Nice rifle, 1917 was a good year.

Looks like someone cut down the stock.

How does it shoot?


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Posted By: Alan de Enfield
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 5:19am
Well - the obvious first
 
It has been sporterised (woodwork cut down)
Manufactured in 1917 at the Enfield plant
It is a Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) mark 3*
The * after the 'mark' indicates it had several modifications to simplify manufacture during WW1 (ie removal of the 'cut off')
 
It was sold into the UK civilian gun trade - hence the UK civilian 'proof marks' (BNP 303 2.222" 18.5tons per sq inch)
Birmingham Nitro Proof
303 = calibre
2.222" = cartridge length
18.5 tons per sq inch = proof test
 
It subsequently made its way into the USA before 1968 - hence the "England" import mark (after 1968 the marking requirements demanded the importers name as well)
 


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Posted By: SW28fan
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 5:20am
The classic No1MkIII* SMLE.
It is quite restorable but a useful deer gun as is.


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Posted By: paddyofurniture
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 8:34am
Looks like a great "Bambi" buster to me.


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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: October 13 2013 at 9:15am
Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

Nice rifle, 1917 was a good year.

Looks like someone cut down the stock.

How does it shoot?


Well, it goes like this,Paddy.
Ya push the bolt forward , thereby chambering a live cartridge.
Once the bolt is in the "locked down" position...it is "cocked" and ready to fire.
Whence you pull the trigger, the primer is struck by the firing pin-thereby exploding the powder in the cartridge. The resulting gasses from said explosion pushes the bullet down the barrel & on it's way to whatever target you send it. Really..I thought you woulda known this by now!
Hoadie

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Posted By: Rastis
Date Posted: October 16 2013 at 3:14pm
G'Day,
          This is the third SMLE sporterised exactly the same I have seen, with the rounded pistol grip and filled site protector holes. The other 2 were BSA manufacture from 1915. One is featured in Jay Currah's web site, listing examples of sporterised Lee Enfields. The other is owned by a neighbor here in Australia. I am starting to believe a company may have been commercializing WW1 surplus rifles to this style and selling them to the public. Just seems a coincidence to have the same rifle on different continents.
 
http://www.milsurps.com/enfield.php?pg=sp1.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.milsurps.com/enfield.php?pg=sp1.htm
 
 
Thanks,
Rastis.


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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: October 20 2013 at 4:38pm
sure glad he got the photos posted before we cannibalized him , thanks for joining us and sorry things went so sideways before getting on track , 

nice rifle , we encourage restoration where possible , 


Posted By: BlackAck
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 5:37am
LOL 

Thank you for the laugh. 

Hudson, you have a nice Enfield.  Now the question is: restore or not?


Posted By: LE Owner
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 5:49am
If you decide on a restoration check with APEX , they have an online store.
They used to list unissued in the wrap nose caps with no serial numbers.
Its always better to have no numbers on the cap rather than non matching numbers which show the cap has been salvaged from another rifle.
 
Last time I looked they no longer listed these, but its common for online stores to stop listing an item when stocks run low. You could email them to find out if they still have a few stashed away.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 8:31am
Well now I have a question of identity.
One of the lads that hunts with me brought his Enfield to camp(as most do). This one was a No4 MkI stamped 1944.
There was NO serial number on the bolt at all.
The I.D stampings were on the LEFT side of the socket, and it was stamped "SURREY" in the middle of the barrel - half way down.
It was sported, but still retained the original butt plate.
I've never seen one marked like that before, & it seemed to be covered in that "black paint" (suncorite?)
Please give me some insight on this, Oracle of the forum.
Hoadie

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 8:45am
what has happened to the magazine well ?


Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 8:52am
I live in Surrey, BC. Man, would I love to own a #4 with 'Surrey' stamped on the wrist!

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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 11:59am
Not stamped on the wrist, Canuck. Its stamped on the top of the barrel
Hoadie

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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 2:16pm
Okay, thx for the correction.

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