#5 Mk 1
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Topic: #5 Mk 1
Posted By: Rockycoyote
Subject: #5 Mk 1
Date Posted: January 02 2007 at 11:34am
| Hows it going? I was just looking around the net for enfield info and this looks like a good place to be! I have just been given my fathers #5 carbine. I'm sure its the real deal, Lightening cuts and electro stenciled serial# ect... My father purchased this rifle in the mid 50s from the local sporting goods store for about $12.00 . The rifle was "Sporterized" by my pop , he took the upper forend off and bevelled the lower forend a bit. As well as dehorning (taking down the sharp edges) the receiver. My pop told my that when he purchased the rifle it looked new, never issued once he got through the cosmoline. The magazine has the same serial on it as the receiver. My main question, Is it possible for him to have a never issued surplus rifle? Second, where can I find an upper forestock for this?I would like to get it back to stock condition. Oh yeah, he also took off the original flash suppresor. I put a reproduction on it. Since then we have found the original..LOL Any info would be great! |
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Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 02 2007 at 12:53pm
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Yes - its QUITE possible he got an un-issued rifle.Crown assests Canada STILL has them in stock
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 12:25am
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hoadie
Where is Crown Assests? I got my No5 mk1 25 yrs age from SIR never issued 1945 BSA .
Cheers ------------- Gerry |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 3:27am
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I'm with Hoadie on this ! I would say it would of been unissued in the mid 50's ! I don't think they were a popular rifle by any means . Some people love em some hate them ! There dosen't seem to be any middle ground ! I've owned a couple over the years & the first thing I did was to get rid of the butt plate & replace it ! The stupid rubber recoil pad that was fitted was designed by the Marquis De Sade ! I'm sure ! A Old mate of mine has one that was converted to 25-303 & swears by it ! The main thing is ,if your happy with it that's all that matters Dave |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 11:44pm
I'm not familiar with the"SIR" term.Whats it stand for? Crown Assets Disposal, is a company set up to dispose of surplus federal equipment.Apparently, you must be on they're approval list before you can buy anything from them.(This is where my friend Dennis, has acquired his 2 cannons, & other vehicles etc.) Interesting to note here - I remember , maybe not quite 10 years ago, reading a listing of surplus firearms offered for sale by an outfit in Texas.(This was @ my mate BOB CAMP gunshop in Niagara Falls)Amongst the listings was "Snider Enfield Rifles..Still in crates..released from Canadian Crown Assets." I guess they hang on to things for quite a while.(true statement-if our miltary aircraft are any indication!) Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Gerry wrote:Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 3:58am
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Hi hoadie
S.I.R is a outdoor sport store who sell Firearms in Winnipeg. As a person you cannot by Mil Firearms from Cdn. Gov.? I though you were talking about
Crown Assets Surplus Store in Calgary. Any have a nice day it is 1 C it is warm enough to go shooting today.
Cheers ------------- Gerry |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 4:37am
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Well - got ya beat there, bud!! Its bin 53 F 12 C all day(accordin to thermometer in shade in back yard) bin out in T-shirt, today.Bin like this all week! Keep it comin!!Saving a fortune on gas bill!!
As fer individuals buying surplus firearm from the gov't..evidently not.From what I understand, you hafta be on they're "approved" list, have a FFL, & you buy full "lots" There might be alot of stuff in said lot ya don't want - but its all or nothing. So I'm told.Course, if ya have a "friend" on the inside... Hoadie - pass me the sunscreen! ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 5:14am
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Hi hoadie
Don't burn you have to like it. from what I under stand they will not release any Firearms even to a Dealer. The only Firearms they have in stock that could be released are some No4, No7 and some cadet .22 Rifles I am told they are cutting up all Firearms inc FN C1A1 C1A1 C1 SMG and No7 .22 .
Cheers ------------- Gerry |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 12:41pm
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Thats entirely possible.(They way those stinko commies think!!) Why not sell 'em for scrap, instead of getting some $ for 'em & letting collectors & sporters get 'em!
Rotten Commies! 
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 3:46am
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Hi hoadie
They don't want those BAD LOOKING FIREARMS on the street. The FN series rifles are PROHIBITED my Son has one I can't even loan it from him. When he moved out he could not leave it at my home.
Cheers Gerry ------------- Gerry |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 12:30pm
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Before they brought that STUPID law in - my mate Bob Camp brought a bunch of them in.They were surplus S.A.S , from British Crown Assets.They were permanently semi auto.My price was $220.00.I wanted to wait to see what the "proposed" law would do.Well - I found out! Rotten G-D-Commies!!
Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 12:59pm
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One of the conditions of my "D" & "C" endorsments (semi auto Rifle- , Shotgun ,Pump action shot gun ) is visits from my Dear friends in the Firearms branch ! I always make a point of writing a number on my forearm in black ink & wear a Yellow arm band with a Star of David on it ! I once explained to them that 60 odd years ago under another Gov it was mandortory for undesirables to have to be marked & check in with the police ! Normally followed by a Zieg heil ! (some of the guys actualy give one back to me ) Yes I know it's bloody childish of me ....But is'nt it a little childish to waste man power & hours to check that their still secured (the firearms ) ? Dave 434413 |
Posted By: Ed Hill
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 1:22pm
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Dave, there was an unfortunate shooting at a Seattle, Wa. high school this week. the anti-gun crowd is already yelling " oh when will we tighten up these gun laws?" ( or, rifle laws for Hoadie) The pistol in question was found to have been stolen a couple of years ago in a burglary, and no amount of laws would have kept it out of the school. Ed |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 1:26pm
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Ahhhhhhhh Herr Hurcombe! Today ve vill haff some sport! Hut 3 will play hut 4 for the ashes of hut 2! Heil Hitler!! ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: Hatchetman
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 5:11pm
| I can already see the results tony.... 5 nil. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 5:54pm
The Port Arthur Massacre ! One Martin Bryant obtained a AR15 & went beserck ! In the Knee jerk reaction that Followed ! Semi Auto rifles & Semi Auto shot Guns were banned (Pump action shot guns were banned cause some one mentioned them no other reason !) Ok Fair enough it was a tragic thing that should of never happened ! Bryant is a Mentaly handicapped person & there were no preceedures in place in Tasmania at that time to check on a persons mental state to own a Firearm ! In fact if you wanted to own a Machine gun in Tassie you could ! Now lets look at a couple of facts ! The weapon that Mr Bryant obtained in Tasmania ........Had been handed into the Victorian Police over on the Main land & the records showed it had been destroied!!!!!!! Yet some months latter this Destroied Rifle ended up in the hands of a Mentaly challanged person ,who used it to commit a horrendes crime! Was this a registered weapon ? No !!! It was a weapon that was shown to have been destroied ! Now the intresting part of the story comes with the Punnishment of Mr Bryant ! He was placed in a cell specialy designed ! It was like a Fish bowl ! Unbreakable Glass ! 24hr camera survallance ! No contact with other prisoners,let alone the outside world ! How fast we forget these things ! Just recently a new Max Security prison was completed in Tasmania & in Parlement the Minister of Correctional services was asked if Mr Bryant was to be moved into the new Prison ? The reply was along the line of that Mr Bryant was in the Prison System in Tasmania & his where abouts was not to be released! I had to ask myself at the time ......What about the special Cell ? The media had loved flashing it about & yet now this man is in the prison system ??????? The Dept of defence is having problems accounting for L.A.W.S that went missing & turned up being sold to the Underworld here in Australia ! We talk about Gun control ,when our own Gov cant control the security of our ordanance ! Jeez be the first Thug on the Block to own a 75mm Light Anti Tank weapon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 6:42pm
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Psssssst Dave swap you a 50 cal mg and 5 crates of ammo for a mortar and couple of crates of bombs. Can't get the mg on my ticket but the mortar is smooth bore so it should be ok on on my shotgun ticket. ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 8:07pm
 stick it to em hatchetman.oh it was glorious! the ashes this year..the beer was cold and the wickets just kept falling. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 11:41pm
Hey Ed!! The "Antis" beleive that laws WILL stop robberies, killings etc.They believe that if ALL FIREARMS are banned - ther'll be no firearm related crimes....  Wait - do U hear it too?  Someone singing "over the Rainbow!"  Its sounds like Judy Garland!!
I'm better take my meds. Hoadie ------------- Loose wimmen tightened here |
Posted By: allan
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 7:08am
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yep take away rifles and stricken gun laws...but have a huge campaign on how cigaretes kill ya, and that they contain rat poison and acetone and paint stripper..but still sell them to the public!!!! so who's holdin the loaded gun here???
oh thats right...the government dont get any money out of me for having my rifles! only every five years when i renew my license. ------------- 'SAVIOUR OF OUR SKIES BOYO!' |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 7:38am
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well thats the reason that full autos were made illeagal here after prohibition, some thing for the glut of fed agents on payrole to have some thing to do and a tax stamp to pay for it. they also had a marijuana stamp but you had to be in posetion first to get one. so you had the crap illeagaly prior to getting the stamp to get the stamp but you got arrested when asking to be legal. whats up with that? next it will be the same for guns, and RIFLES. ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 9:07pm
Mate if you throw in that case of Grenades I just know you've got stashed in the back room ! I even throw in a half a crate of Illum rounds for the mortar ! I also have a special on Iraqie issue AKs this month ! Never fired & only dropped once ! Dave |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 9:16pm
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The illumination rounds could be useful mate. The politicians and bosses here give us the mushroom treatment . ------------- Rottie (PitBulls dad.) “If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 11:26pm
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I also have a special on Iraqie issue AKs this month ! Never fired & only dropped once ! Dave
Hey Dave I herd that they have a speciale on Rope too , its already been drop and load tested, Killer deal on this rope , Better jump on this deal while its still hanging around. ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 07 2007 at 1:32pm
GROAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like it  Dave |
Posted By: White Rhino
Date Posted: January 08 2007 at 6:22am
Some time mailto:sh@t - sh@t comes out of me that is funny when i dont try to make it funny, other times i just chew on my sneakers or flip flops... ------------- "White Rhino" "Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer." --W. C. Fields |
Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 11:00am
my no5 is fairly nice shape , its a late one , but i know it didnt go out in the jungle much its too clean ,
 its a FAZ 10/47 AC5560 in european beech furniture with metal forearm endcap ,
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Posted By: Bubba
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 11:13am
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Wow-nice #5. Wish I had one of those!
Bubba
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